FWIW, I think I think in a more typically masculine way, and I don't defer to men just because they're men. But no one would ever call me masculine.
I tend to be attracted to men who are pretty balanced as well--maybe the flip side of me. Seemingly pretty masculine at first glance, unafraid to pursue if he sees a woman he's attracted to (or at least willing to put himself out there anyway), but not married to gender roles and not fixated on what masculinity is, and what femininity is. It's really less of a formula than the feeling of two personalities complementing each other without worrying so much about the labels.
Very much so. Actually, I see anyone who embodies extreme masculinity or femininity so that they become a walking stereotype as unbalanced and, paradoxically, undifferentiated. I find myself drawn to "masculine" women and "feminine" men since both seem to be capable of expanding their consciousness beyond mundane cliches. Perhaps because they have to - nurture pushes them in one direction, nature pulls them in another. Those who resolve this conflict successfully are among the most interesting, intelligent, creative, well-rounded people I have ever encountered.
I'm not going to respond to your patronizing and juvenile post by flaming you. I understand that the fallacy you've been trying to point out in my post is the false dilemma (though you've confused this with the straw man.) Quite simply, you claim that:
(1) All people have a mixture of masculinity and femininity.
(2) This mixture varies in composition depending on personality type.
(3) NTs tend to have more masculinity and less femininity.
(4) More masculine/less feminine types are attracted to more feminine types.
(5) More masculine/less feminine types are still attracted, in their heart of hearts, to more masculine types.
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Therefore...
(C1) NTs are attracted to more feminine types.
(C2) NTs are attracted to more masculine types.
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I do love to witness a good Ti pwn. The idea that he thought he could instruct you in critical thinking is laughably ridiculous.
That T-ness is more masculine than F-ness
That E-ness is more masculine than I-ness
That J-ness is more masculine than P-ness <--lulz
And that S-ness is more masculine than N-ness.
^The above statements are my own nebulous beliefs, and no, I don't care if they are not valid by any body else's standards, they're my own, thank you very much.
I said as much
here:
I guess these mesh with common cultural ideas about masculinity and femininity. Interestingly, the
BBC are conducting a huge research project on personality type distribution. And they have found the following:
Personality and gender
For the first time, we are able to see that men tend to score higher for the trait of Openness than women. Intriguingly, this suggests that men tend to have a higher sensitivity for art and beauty than women, whereas women tend to be more practical.
Other findings confirmed previous research. Women scored higher on average than men in Agreeableness, Conscientiousness, and Neuroticism. In other words, women tend to be more caring, dependable and emotional, while men tend to be more competitive, distracted and even-tempered.
These are Big 5 measures.
If we use a rough correlation:
E = E/I
O = N/S
A = F/T
C = J/P
Then, if we are going to use the definition of feminine as "more likely to be found in women", we have the following pattern (for the British population, at least).
E/I - no gender distinction
More "masculine" ----> More "feminine"
N-----> S
T-----> F
P-----> J
The T/F split is well-documented and there are a plenty of supporting theories for this phenomenon. NP v SJ is perhaps more surprising...though not really; it's almost a corollary, if we accept that right-hemisphere development tends to start earlier and be more pronounced in males due to the effects of androgen on the developing fetal brain.
Actually, this does make sense; SFJs are the closest types to the feminine archetype. They're also mostly women/
most women are of this type.
According to that source, I is also (slightly) more common in males than E.
That would make INTP the most masculine type.
Someone should really tell INTP men that.
It's more complicated I think than simply making a formula derived from MBTI on what constitutes femininity and masculinity.
Of course it is, but we're NTs! Formulae are our forte.
