Kullervo
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If you were in love with a girl from school but too shy to approach her directly, how would you try to get her to like you?
It seems more like strong Ni and Ne to me with a prominent Fe and Si making him more of an INTP. He really has no concern for the material, and physical activities in the present world seem to be of relatively little importance and even though Se would be inferior for INTJ, they would care more for the sort. No? Laziness in the general sense is more of an Si thing, I would say, as those who have dominant Se or have it anywhere in their main 4 stack are more action-oriented than thought-oriented. ESTPs are even referred to as the Doers. All of the cautious mumbo-jumbo which practically translates to "you should be like me, I don't understand why you do what you do, it's all so crazy and you don't do it like me, but you should!" seems more like Fe-Si than Fi-Se.
All the emphasis on individuality screams enneagram 4 and the all the rest would suggest a 5 wing, maybe sp/sx. I'm lazy right now, so take these few sentences with a grain of salt.
Could you clarify what you mean with the above? I'm not entirely sure whether you mean I cautiously state this, if you misinterpreted my sentences or if I misunderstood you entirely. This was what I stated in Qustion 2 in regards to what I dislike most about people:"All of the cautious mumbo-jumbo which practically translates to "you should be like me, I don't understand why you do what you do, it's all so crazy and you don't do it like me, but you should!" seems more like Fe-Si than Fi-Se."
So basically if what I stated annoys me in the above translates to Fe-Si, then what makes you think I use a prominent Fe and Si?I don't want other people butting in telling me "This is how you dress. This is how you eat. This is what you should be. This is how you should react to this situation..." > They've just inherited the Social norms and claimed it as their own instead of critically thinking for themselves, questioning it whether or not it's the most efficient way, if it truely makes sense to live a life society has given them rather than finding their own path.
[MENTION=10757]Nicodemus[/MENTION]
Thoughts?
[MENTION=21639]Kullervo[/MENTION]
I don't know much about how xNTPs' and xSTJs' argue although they are two of the personality types I've read about in the past. So unfortunately I'm incapable of giving my thoughts.
[MENTION=13589]Mal12345[/MENTION]
Any further thoughts you might share?
I'm wondering what makes you think I've a prominent Fe? From my own observation in regards to Fe and Fi, I feel Fi more applying to me based on my own understanding of the functions. Also, about this part.
Could you clarify what you mean with the above? I'm not entirely sure whether you mean I cautiously state this, if you misinterpreted my sentences or if I misunderstood you entirely. This was what I stated in Qustion 2 in regards to what I dislike most about people:
So basically if what I stated annoys me in the above translates to Fe-Si, then what makes you think I use a prominent Fe and Si?
I coloured the not-coherent statements in red.
Other things I don't like is people who're all about parties during the weekends. People who're asking "What's for next weekend?" and neglects their current duty, e.g. the studies in school. I don't understand why some people are quick to start drinking, start smoking and test out all the kind of intoxicants there is to try out. We humans have our natural needs and if we don't have a need for e.g. tobacco by nature, why make a need? This statement saying "If there's no need for it, why consume it?" was what made people believe me to be an ISTJ as they're quite the teetotalers.
I also don't like over-enthusiastically people who believes their enthusiasm is everyone else's as well. I don't want to be brought to different events that I see no importance in, events that isn't providing me with anything of value and is nothing but a waste of my time. For some reason I'm willed to accept them for being enthusiastic, but they're not willed to accept me for being unenthusiastic about something. They argue the events is for the sake of bonding people closer together, which isn't on my list of importance. But this is something that I can't say aloud of perhaps even think without being alienated by the rest of society. That's why I often feel I need to put up a social-mask at times to be someone I'm not, not as in going against what is right and wrong but more as in hiding my true-self, my true opinions and world views.
Fe because as much as you care about individuality, you don't exactly want everyone to be an individual and reciprocate, but like you. Si because you aren't at all engaged in the physical as a stronger Se would be, but much rather preoccupied with thoughts of how things should be or how you want them to be. Stronger Fi wouldn't care much for how others are and how they are, but much rather their own individuality and put it much ahead of their sentiments towards others. You want people to act as you act even though paradoxically you want them to be individuals.
This is typical boring Si.
Typical superficial Fe.
Fe-Ti in whatever order they may be are much less critical outwardly than Te-Fi. Social masks aren't quite Te-Fi.
NFJ are very much like this as a result of their Fe and accompanying functions and so they are commonly enneagram 4's; they want people to be individuals as much as they think they are, to be less superficial, but fail to realize their own superficiality.
Because that's what I scored based on some online tests. From my last questionnaire I only changed by Ennegaram and Mbti. I never took the time to bother changing my Socionics type, I guess I was too lazy and didn't see it as that important. However, I decided to look more into socionics by switching my last letter with the opposite, e.g. INTP in mbti equals INTJ in socionicz and vice versa. Therefore don't pay too much attention to my socionics type as it's likely incorrect.Why are you typed as EII in socionics?
general evasiveness of critiquing, but talking behind ones back and the sort would tend to be found a lot more in Fe-Ti types and as a result they are more liked for their superficiality and "easygoing" ways in contrast to Te-Fi's hard deconstruction of whatever it is they may be judging
Your mention of "exceptions to the rule" is a rather Ti thing to say, maybe you just want to be an INTJ with your entire little heart. Ultimately, it's up to you.
After careful examination of all the facts I conclude you are a completely normal young person.
I do not need help in regards to personality disorders, but psychological types. Now if you had the time for that joke, can you please give your thoughts about Mbti type?
My thoughts are that you are unlikely to be accurately typed right now. But if you must pick one go INTJ merely because its the one all young males seem to opt for until they become more conscious in their preferences. I wasn't kidding you sound exactly like every other guy under 20. I am an INTJ and personally I don't think you are one. There's nothing there that particularly says pattern mapper, intuiter, long term strategist, which is what those four letters mean to me.
INTJ is the goto MBTI type when you're a surly young person who likes solitary pursuits.
Likewise I don't see a lot of INTP in you either. Those guys usually scream crazy logic to me and I have trouble following their rants or getting the sub-context of their posts, but you don't seem to have that thing about you. If I had to take a stab at it I'd put you in the ISTJ camp.
As for your enneagram though...I have trouble seeing E6. You sound like a type 1.
[MENTION=23686]00c[/MENTION] I've taken ones in the past, but I may aswell retake.
Do you have any links to any 'ok' tests?
Ah, my escape from having to write something: I agree.My thoughts are that you are unlikely to be accurately typed right now. But if you must pick one go INTJ merely because its the one all young males seem to opt for until they become more conscious in their preferences. I wasn't kidding you sound exactly like every other guy under 20. I am an INTJ and personally I don't think you are one. There's nothing there that particularly says pattern mapper, intuiter, long term strategist, which is what those four letters mean to me.
INTJ is the goto MBTI type when you're a surly young person who likes solitary pursuits.
Likewise I don't see a lot of INTP in you either. Those guys usually scream crazy logic to me and I have trouble following their rants or getting the sub-context of their posts, but you don't seem to have that thing about you. If I had to take a stab at it I'd put you in the ISTJ camp.
As for your enneagram though...I have trouble seeing E6. You sound like a type 1.