[Traditional Enneagram] 6w5 and 'Mansplaining'

[Starry]

Wait now I'm confused... :/

Excellent...my plan to confuse the world one person at a time is working! (sorry...i still haven't had enough coffee and I think I was filling in some of my own blanks there haha)

For some reason I didn't understand you were sure of e6 and made things confusing by throwing out 9 for no reason. What I was trying to say though is that I don't think mansplaining is enneagram related regardless of point. I think "mansplaining" ...or what is received as mansplaining is related to ISP....only.

 

[Starry]

When I'm explaining something an image forms, and as I'm talking I'm "running my fingers" over all the facets I can see. Sometimes that means touching familiar areas.

^^this is good sunyata.

 

[Starry]

Inferior Te can be very condescending, even unintentionally.....

Whoops SfP I missed this. All Te can be very condescending, even intentionally

 

[five sounds]

Excellent...my plan to confuse the world one person at a time is working! (sorry...i still haven't had enough coffee and I think I was filling in some of my own blanks there haha)

For some reason I didn't understand you were sure of e6 and made things confusing by throwing out 9 for no reason. What I was trying to say though is that I don't think mansplaining is enneagram related regardless of point. I think "mansplaining" ...or what is received as mansplaining is related to ISP....only.

Interesting! Never thought that would be an ISP quality. It's the inferior Te?

 

[Starry]

Interesting! Never thought that would be an ISP quality. It's the inferior Te?

I wish I understood the inferiors better because I appreciate their significance but my knowledge is really only limited to this truth: Si in the trunk is a recipe for insanity.


It is just something I've noticed out of a decent number of ISPs. The ISFP 9w8 I dated would become excited about something and two hours later I would have been able to hammer out a dissertation on the topic had I wanted...

 

[Kullervo]

[MENTION=5643]EcK[/MENTION] When I saw this thread I thought fives was going to say 6w5s were more likely to be feminists than average

(bows head in disappointment)

[MENTION=18819]five sounds[/MENTION] In all fairness, I don't see how any of this has a lot to do with your friend's Enneagram. She also doesn't sound a lot like an ISFP to me, but some xxFJ type, though I'll bow to you on that. If you feel she's being a little bit of a know-it-all and talking down to you, tell her politely. For example: "hey I don't feel you're letting me speak enough" or "you're being a bit patronising" and see how she responds. She is your friend so hopefully will listen to you. If she doesn't, well, maybe you should move on to someone who will.

 

[five sounds]

I wish I understood the inferiors better because I appreciate their significance but my knowledge is really only limited to this truth: Si in the trunk is a recipe for insanity.


It is just something I've noticed out of a decent number of ISPs. The ISFP 9w8 I dated would become excited about something and two hours later I would have been able to hammer out a dissertation on the topic had I wanted...

Haha that sounds like exactly what I'm talking about! Love it.

 

[1487610420]

obvs mistyped

 

[Betty Blue]

obvs mistyped

I was actually wondering, just now, if you are mistyped.... what is your type again?

 

[five sounds]

I dunno guys, I'm pretty sure she's ISFP. Enneagram seems to be entirely in the air at the current moment though.

 

[Tilt]

I just smile, interrupt, redirect the conversation to the parts where I want more explanation with questions.

 

[1487610420]

I was actually wondering, just now, if you are mistyped.... what is your type again?

That's private!

I've been told buxomed, but I prefur to believe I'm sapioseshual. Becuzzz.

 

[cascadeco]

Wow, I so don't do this, I think I am an almost-mute version of isfp in comparison, lol

 

[1487610420]

Wow, I so don't do this, I think I am an almost-mute version of isfp in comparison, lol

You must be mistyped!
unless...

 

[Duffy]

I don't think it's related to 5 core or 5 wing.

The whole core of 5-ness revolves around avarice, which can manifest as a reluctance to engage with others for fear of depletion of resources. I have some 5-ness in me, and I don't steamroll people with info or talk down to them, at least not IRL. Ironically, I've observed a 7 I know do something like this, which makes way more sense if we wanna attribute this to type.

 

[Eluded_One]

If you're getting an ISFP to talk, you're doing something right, or something dreadfully wrong.

 

[Amargith]

If you're getting an ISFP to talk, you're doing something right, or something dreadfully wrong.

You guys are one to talk - I remember the first time I got my INFP friend in college to finally speak. I'd known him for over a year, and somehow, I'd managed to gain his trust enough so he'd let me walk him home.

Next thing I know, I'm in his bed room, getting a two hour lecture on Warhammer.
This from a man who normally barely uttered more than two words to me and mumbled them at best!

I will admit - he was absolutely adorable in all his stammering passion

 

[five sounds]

If you're getting an ISFP to talk, you're doing something right, or something dreadfully wrong.

Haha so true. I'm being picky, aren't I?

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If you're getting an ISFP to talk, you're doing something right, or something dreadfully wrong.

Haha so true. I'm being picky, aren't I?

 

[Virtual ghost]

You guys are one to talk - I remember the first time I got my INFP friend in college to finally speak. I'd known him for over a year, and somehow, I'd managed to gain his trust enough so he'd let me walk him home.

Next thing I know, I'm in his bed room, getting a two hour lecture on Warhammer.
This from a man who normally barely uttered more than two words to me and mumbled them at best!

I will admit - he was absolutely adorable in all his stammering passion

Is this a figure of speech or it was litterally this ? verthinking:

 

[cascadeco]

Haha so true. I'm being picky, aren't I?

I think people of almost every type will do what you describe, if they are excited/passionate about something, I think much of the time they may have little idea the extent they're doing it, and I agree, on the receiving end it can become tiresome, if you're listening for a lengthy amount of time while they go on a monologue. I don't really have a good suggestion other than trying to be sensitive and not hurt their feelings when you try to cut it short or acknowledge you understand what they're saying, or don't desire to know the details, or whatever. I think it's tricky.