Type Shaming Threads

[Siúil a Rúin]

Let's cool it with the type shaming threads. It's not an insightful or helpful approach to personality analysis. These are formalized rants, passive aggressive ways of expressing personal anger and hurt. I realize that we all get hurt very badly by others, but what would be a more productive way to deal with these feelings, rather than berating entire categories of people over personal pain?

Responses for other ideas of expressing personal pain are welcomed and important here.

 

[prplchknz]

thank you.

edit especially when the critiicisms are often untrue and the person's understanding of the function is wrong

 

[1487610420]

yeah, this is probably sensors or feelers fault, cuz 2 sensitive, or maybe it's thinkers 2 anal retentive, or maybe...idk

 

[Lark]

Let's cool it with the type shaming threads. It's not an insightful or helpful approach to personality analysis. These are formalized rants, passive aggressive ways of expressing personal anger and hurt. I realize that we all get hurt very badly by others, but what would be a more productive way to deal with these feelings, rather than berating entire categories of people over personal pain?

Responses for other ideas of expressing personal pain are welcomed and important here.

I agree, though its nothing new, its the same phenomenon which is working itself out in the anti-feminist, anti-woman threads.

I've seen it in another format, the "angry introvert", on another typology forum.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

This little girl is talking about her parents divorce, but it applies to all of us. Something to consider when we are about to bash each other.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

I agree, though its nothing new, its the same phenomenon which is working itself out in the anti-feminist, anti-woman threads.

I've seen it in another format, the "angry introvert", on another typology forum.

Agreed. The problem with the personally angry threads abstracted into generalized theory is that even if there are bits of relevant information, there is never one individual who perfectly embodies a type. Even credible criticisms of tendencies within a type take on a black-and-white format where the anger is expressed as being pertinent to every person within that category. Humanity is so much more fluid and complex than this angry box system of thinking represents. The foundation of it is so erroneous that even if there are a few truths sprinkled in, the discussion is still not going to be enlightening.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

When I used to frequent wrongplanet, there'd periodically be "death to neurotypicals" sentiments expressed.

It's one thing to express frustrations with other groups and ideologies if it leads to understanding and discussion, another if it involves generalized blanket statements made with no intentions of finding common ground or seeking to empathize outside of one's own in-group.

 

[Evo]

Maybe people are just looking for clarification or to have their perception checked, and find debate the best avenue in which to explore an idea. Or maybe they don't have the best way of presenting their ideas and learn best by talking things out, instead of reading static descriptions. Or maybe they are putting people in boxes because that's what typology does lol....

Or maybe they are just narrow minded asshats. But I don't actually know who you're talking about, so ..

 

[Smilephantomhive]

When I used to frequent wrongplanet, there'd periodically be "death to neurotypicals" sentiments expressed.

It's one thing to express frustrations with other groups and ideologies if it leads to understanding and discussion, another if it involves generalized blanket statements made with no intentions of finding common ground or seeking to empathize outside of one's own in-group.

And don't mention the people on tumblr who say "down with cis".

 

[Luke O]

FFS I know I'm preaching to the converted, every type has its own strengths, weaknesses and challenges. I've got respect for all types.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

And don't mention the people on tumblr who say "down with cis".

Can't tell if that's sarcasm. Please clarify.

 

[Merced]

Maybe people are just looking for clarification or to have their perception checked, and find debate the best avenue in which to explore an idea.

This. Though, I 100% understand where OP is coming from. I would like to see an example of what they meant by 'type shaming thread'.

 

[Smilephantomhive]

Can't tell if that's sarcasm. Please clarify.

Uh yeah. Well people on tumblr really do say that, but the first part of the sentence was sarcasm.

 

[Starry]

In all honesty I've appreciated negative feedback from members most of all...when it is accurate. I mean, if you buy into the concept of type...then it follows that you likewise bu y into the existence of type-related strengths and weakness. Seeing as I am always hoping someone or something else will make enlightenment super easy for me...I'm very cool with the people that are willing to risk discussing my type and functions in a negative way. But it damn well better be accurate.

If the information is accurate I want it out there regardless of the messengers motivations. Shame what is legitimately shameful for all I care... I'm looking towards the insight.

I'm not sure what wires get crossed for me though when an individual is inaccurate and belittling on top of that...perhaps it then registers with my system as an underdog situation and I go into reaction mode. But these people usually sink their own ships. Image spinners that use type-talk in an effort to sell their perfected facades are far more creepy to me than someone venting about their ex.

 

[Hawthorne]

This. Though, I 100% understand where OP is coming from. I would like to see an example of what they meant by 'type shaming thread'.

I'm assuming Mal's provocatively worded series, the low quality troll ones like this, and a few initially benign ones that get thrown off the rails like so.

So less shaming and more...creating disruption through oversimplication and misrepresentation? A bit of a mouthful though.

 

[1487610420]

Because starting another thread like it is totally not like posting offtopic in a thread complaining about the thread (while keeping it alive with attention lulz)

for the dumb senzors: "omg ppl are making threads bitching about X!" *starts thread bitching about people starting threads bitching about X*

 

[Yama]

People should stop giving them attention. Ignore & move on. Trolls get bored and leave when no one feeds them.

 

[Merced]

So less shaming and more...creating disruption through oversimplication and misrepresentation? A bit of a mouthful though.

Woah. Okay, now I understand.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

This. Though, I 100% understand where OP is coming from. I would like to see an example of what they meant by 'type shaming thread'.

It happens on a continuum, and the problem stands regardless of where each would draw the line for what a shaming thread is. I'm not trying to define that line myself. But if you want to hear some examples I do think fit the concept:
Threads that use the word "evil" associated with a type in the title.
Threads that are clearly a rant against an individual in the person's life, projected as a rage against a type.
Threads that expect members of a given type confess to being guilty of whatever is being presented in the OP.

 

[Yama]

Threads that expect members of a given type confess to being guilty of whatever is being presented in the OP.

^^^i love how I was "supposed" to confess to being some sort of abuser in the Si hate thread despite never having been apart of that lol

"I knew an ISFJ who was like this so all ISFJs are like this. You too."
"Nah"
"Then you will be one day, you monster"