[Traditional Enneagram] Your enneagram type

[stupidgirl]

You are most likely a type 4.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 4w5

 

[SigmaEnigma]

Ignoring my previous comment (I used to mistype as 8 since 5 & 8 sound similar on paper), my type is as follows:

5w6 > 3w4 > 8w7 Sx/Sp

 

[StarFollowed]

4w5 sx/so.

 

[Nix Tempesedo]

5w6 for me.
My tri type is 5w6, 1w9 and 3w2, so/sp. I'm frequently taken as a 9 though due to the fact I tend to take a mediator or almost motherly role in the groups I'm part of. Not in the soft cuddly kinda way, but in the way of "If you cause trouble in my space, I'm going to do something about it.", I'm an amicable peacekeeper, but all the same, my type is actually a 5.

 

[Polaris]

I identify with one enneagram type in the same way that a rainbow identifies with one color.

 

[Mind Maverick]

I put 5w6 on here initially, but that was very wrong for me. After reading the WoE book...it's either 9w8 or 6w5. Probably 9w8. 6w5 is its disintegration.

 

[INTP1W2]

Age 19: 1w2
Age 24: 1w2
Age 41: 2w1

I'm still learning how to apply the Enneagram and what all of my scores mean about my own personality. I do agree with the scores at the respective ages. I was much more anti-social my entire adolescence and early adulthood so much to the point that I was suicidal for all of my adolescence and until my first child was born at age 23 just before my 24th birthday.

I've intentionally worked really hard to better develop myself and I can see it has paid off with the 2w1 scoring which was only a 1pt difference from still being 1w2.

Helper is accurate but I've had to learn how to address my own needs instead of just everyone else's. I have a very strong will and moral compass and I'm much more comfortable standing openly against a general consensus than I used to be in adolescence and early adulthood.

The anger of the 1 is very accurate as is the servant of 2. I wouldn't say I "abuse food" (Type2) but a boss once described me as "eating abnormal portions". Asshole! I have also become very aware of my emotions, which has taken years of work and I attribute journaling for many years to helping me pay more attention to my feelings.

 

[great_bay]

I am a 1 without a wing.

 

[Introspector]

6w5-3w4-1w9 sp/so. ISTJs are practically synonymous with this tritype (not necessarily in this order), so I don't think that there's anything necessarily contradictory in terms of the combination of MBTI and Enneagram.

 

[NatureChaser]

6w7 and 9w?

 

[Tina&Jane]

I'm a core 6w5 and likely have 4w5 in my tritype. Possibly either 1w9 or 9w1 too. I relate a lot to the self-doubting aspect of the 6. I often waver between wanting to seek input and reassurance from others in decisions, but then feeling guilty and like I'm annoying others when I do this, and striving to be as self sufficient as possible. I seem to have trouble striking a balance between these two approaches though, which can lead to some unrest and anxiety. I'm also very self critical and a perfectionistic in many ways, but I don't view this as something to be proud of and try not to over identify with that label. In terms of more positive aspects, I think being a 6 makes me pretty good at foreseeing what could happen and planning for contingencies that may come up. I tend to be good at picking up on other people's motives and guessing what they might do based on that. I can also be both phobic and counterphobic depending on the situation. My counterphobic moments are often from a place of fear or frustration, and tend to come up when I feel cornered, or when I've run out of patience for a person or situation. I feel like I have a lot of contradictions in my personality, like I'm often being split between two opposing forces, so I try to strive for balance and self-compassion as much as I can.

 

[Logitechu]

I'm a 1w9 INTJ.

The big five test gave me Global 5: sloan RCOEI: Primary Organized:
Extroversion(24%)Orderliness(78%),Emotional stability(54%), Accommodation(34%),Inquisitiveness(70%).

Which I find to be more or less the equivalent to 1w9.

I care about perfection and peace.

It's hard to describe this enneagram other than I put quite high demands to myself and the environments.
I'm sure other people do that too, but there is nearly a constant pressure and interest in optimizing and improving going on in my head.

This perfectionist trait is both a gift and a curse.

Thanks to being open-minded (intj) I can use my conscientious to learn incredible many positive aspects of cultures and people in order to optimize my own life and understanding.
The worst part would probably be to not have an accepting attitude towards many things and people, where my mbti-type contribute as well. Overall, I can be accepting to certain things and situations. I can lower my standards when it comes to romance and love, finding a life-partner is important to me. I know I can't let perfectionism destroy that for me.

 

[Zhaylin]

I, the heck, don't even know about tests any more rofl.
I'm sure of 9w1 but the rest?

"Type 9 - 13
Type 5 - 8.4
Type 1 - 7.7
Type 2 - 7
Type 8 - 2

Wing 9w1 - 16.9
Wing 1w9 - 14.2
Wing 9w8 - 14
Wing 1w2 - 11.2
Wing 2w1 - 10.9
Wing 5w4 - 9.9
Wing 5w6 - 9.3
Wing 8w9 - 8.5
Wing 2w3 - 7.2
Wing 8w7 - 2.9"

And yet, I took the IV one first and it says:
"Type 9 sp [completely full lol]
Type 6 so [c. 85% full]
Type 2 so [maybe 15% full]"

Type 5 sounds a bit too much like me EXCEPT: I am NOT an intellectual and I'm not cold and indifferent. I'm more like the Shrink you spill your guts to. I empathize and sympathize but I keep a VERY tight reign on my emotions. Anger is unacceptable but crying is almost as bad.

Type 1: I am NOT a perfectionist or critical of others. I'm VERY easy to live with because I bury my head in the sand and escape into my own world lol. The only things 1 about me are my extreme dislike of anger and chaos, I am HIGHLY self-critical, and self-indulgent (I don't know the meaning of "work" and play too many video games instead).

Quiz questions confuse me. "I am more Private..[or].. Open" why can't I be both lol. I love solitude, but if you get me talking then I'm an open book and have no secrets. Why can't I be both self-accepting AND self-critical. I love myself, warts and all, but when I'm an idiot, I tell myself about it
Technically, I know I could just click the middle, but that doesn't help the test much does it?

Oh well.
Assuming, the first test is accurate (not the one with the IV), how do I go about finding my tritype?

**EDIT**
I just googled wings and found a site. I LOVE what they say about sp 9's "Self-preservation NINE is pre-occcupied with the home, daily life and often anything other than priorities." That couldn't be more true (for me anyhow).
Here's the site... enneagram houston texas

 

[badatlife]

9w8

Tritype is probably 947, maybe 927 or 946 (in order of likelihood)

 

[badatlife]

i've actually narrowed my tritype to 926 or 946...definitely a 6 in there, i think 946 though

 

[Saturnal Snowqueen]

I'm 80% certain I'm a 9w1-7w6-4w5. Still don't know my variants :/ . Also I've been suggested 9w8 on Reddit and am questioning everything. Maybe [MENTION=20906]badatlife[/MENTION] has some imput

 

[badatlife]

I'm 80% certain I'm a 9w1-7w6-4w5. Still don't know my variants :/ . Also I've been suggested 9w8 on Reddit and am questioning everything. Maybe [MENTION=20906]badatlife[/MENTION] has some imput

I don't know the enneagram or you well enough D: I'd say 9w1 is right though.

 

[Venus Rose]

I ignored my wing for a very long time, instead paying attention to tritype, stackings, core type etc. Anyways, we have all enneagram types in us, some more than others, so I just wanted to comment on the ones most relevant to my personality.

Please note that I am not debating my type, I have spent time with Enneagram, and 4 fits just fine; but I wanted to talk about how some of the other types contribute to who I am, since I have spent the majority of the last three years just pouring all my energy into understanding type 4 and also the sexual instinct, not going quite as deeply into others.

These descriptions are from Enneagramuniverse, written by Joseph Simone.

Like 4, 5 is another type that people often mistype as. Normally, it’s 9’s with 5 in the tritype or 6w5’s that will relate to 5, or anyone that relates to being “intelligent.” It’s important to note that not all 5’s are automatically smart and any other type can be extremely intelligent or not (i agree, also 4 is not exclusively "creative'; they very often are creative, but other types can be creative also. I never felt like I had a specific 'talent' or anything like that and I wished I did; I have come across a few who are talented in some way creatively and they need not even be 4s).

Being part of the fear triad or the head centre, the type 5 structure is based on using cognition to observe reality from a safe vantage point of invisibility. Existing too much, being too involved, allowing oneself to be wet and raw is not an option for 5’s. 5’s see things about them including people from a cognitive lens, as if looking at everything through x-ray glasses. They cut right to the bones of people while forgetting to pay attention to the flesh and heart. This x-ray vision/flesh-blindness includes themselves. I am not this extreme, but I do believe I have these traits. My friend once remarked I had a "weirdly clinical" (lol) way of talking about things that are personal. But I am still a 4 and in fact I am not scared by "too much" I want more, and I can be rather clingy.

5’s usually have a “thing(s),” that they care about, a thing that they explore to the most extreme depths of knowledge, a thing that they spend most of their waking hours researching, theorizing, practising, etc. They are identified with these interests and can have trouble communicating with others about anything else. Most types say they hate small talk, but 5’s don’t know what it is. Other types can have intense interests as well, but 5’s have a certain awkwardness about relating to the outside world.
I didn't realize how frequently and consistently I did this, until now. Well, part of it is also sx.

5’s want to shut off everything else and send extra voltage into their minds at the expense of their bodies. They often feel like “ghosts” in the way they are so out of touch with their flesh body. They have an impressive ability to understand things around them, but to others, their ideas can sometimes seem “upside down” or off point. They will definitely trust themselves over others or society, and unlike 6’s, they do not feel the pressure of outside influences (See the thing is, I am 6 fixed in my tritype. I do seek reassurance from outside, but I have definitely observed that I am not nearly enough "authority seeking" as 6s are. I do like ideas that I think are creative, feel 'right' to me, original, etc, and I don't seek "reassurance" when it comes to those; but at the same time I can be very unsure of myself with some things, and I need support from outside, can get anxious over certain things, etc.). They have a certain quirkiness and are clever in the areas that interest them.

Emotional involvement or indulging in inner states (like 4’s) is switched off so they can be in their cognitive space. These emotions and latent fear and anxiety from the head centre cause very secret insecurities and emotions that most others wouldn’t notice. This even further causes them to pull away from others and detach from themselves to not be engulfed by the wetness of reality. The world desires to much from them, and this causes them to be somewhat minimalist in their desires. They withhold themselves in every way, even cognitively. They communicate in secrets, like wearing a specific item that only someone with a particular knowledge would notice.

Because 5’s bypass their emotional centre in their communications with people, they lose confidence in their ability to relate and connect. This causes them to hide further, and in a cycle, the less time they spend with others, the harder it is to relate to others. They rely even more on the head centre to understand others, learning and observing from a detached place. If they don’t know enough, it’s not safe to come out of hiding (literally or figuratively).

5's will over-intellectualize everything using a pseudo-autism. Things that should be understood by accessing emotions in real time are instead processed in the head. This brings a focus on competency and the need to gather more knowledge. 5's are on a trail to discover something that they might not even know doesn't exist.

The 5 condition is often mistaken for "introversion" or "logic." On the subject of introversion, 5 is not the only withdrawn type, but it's a specific style of withdrawing. 9's for example can be highly withdrawn and introspective, and actually have more of a birds-eye-view than the 5's laser focus thinking (ex. type 9 Einstein). Some 5's can be socially more extraverted in the sense of what their daily activities are. There are 5's who are actors, athletes, etc. On the subject of logic, every type has the ability to be rational and reasonable without being affected by emotional outbursts. Part of "reason" is the consideration of the human being, and 5's being so hyper in their heads can actually lose a sense of logic as they dig deeper and deeper into strange ideas.

Being part of the image triad, the type 4 structure is based around creating a particular crafted self. For 4’s, the image that they create is a crafted image of being “un-crafted.” 4’s want to be seen as raw, true to themselves, and exactly who they are. However, “who they are” is something they consider so often that it’s an image of authenticity. (I am not as "crafted" as a lot of 4s are often portrayed as. But then, I have been looking into socionics and Se polr types can be pretty straightforward, honest, there is no "games" there at all so, Beta + type 4 might resemble "crafted" - and to a strong degree - much more.) Which begs the question for the 4, what is truly authentic and real? The thought that they could be something crafted or predictable makes them sick, so they insist on crafting themselves into something that is completely and utterly separate because that’s what being “real” means. The 4 self-image is a constant re-submerging and re-crafting of all the hypersensitive impressions taken in via introjection. 4 has an obsession with trying to craft "who I am" in a way that is consistently different/alien from any external circumstance. They want to build all of those immediate feelings that swim around inside them into a gilded, weathered-looking sculpture. Part of this obsession with "who I am" is the need to express oneself or curate a specific aesthetic or art. 4's can get stuck in trying to hard to fashion an image of themselves in their art that they fail to just let go and allow the artistic process to happen.

4's are processing a moment-by-moment constant individuation of self-image from others. They are hypersensitive to everything and then have to constantly try to refashion their own sense of self based on those impressions to ensure they are alien from their external circumstances. This is often simplified as "wanting to be unique." However most human beings in this social climate want to show their own unique colours in some way. However with 4, this is a problem that can affect them even when things are good. It's not the same as simply being different. The internal messages for 4 are such that the 4 isn't allowed to have a good time even if people are looking to them or sending positive energy their way. Any time common ground could happen, the 4 will find a way to individuate themselves. You'll see 4's not being a good sport, not playing along, and being very particular about what they are and how it differs from what other people are saying to them. The heart centre is concerned with image, but image is not concrete like the body centre. It's something that needs to be produced. At 4, the mental centre is constantly trying to make sense of the emotional centre by over-processing internal states and over-individuating to create a solid sense of self that will never be solid enough. 4's can get so concerned with how they're coming across in the most self-absorbed way (this sounds soc and yet again the kind of 'uber image focus' which I was referring to which I don't relate to to this extent. I definitely do it but I am not...I mean, I have been told that I am "pure, honest, innocent" etc. and yes I am a type 4 as well at the same time, haha). that they forget to empathize with others. This is the opposite of image type 2.

4’s are addicted to being frustrated. They will consistently come up with problems in relation to their instinct/tritype and often project this deficiency in that area to others. Part of the image of 4 is that they are broken and unfixable with regards to their instinct, and they broadcast the amorphous problem that they have. This is not the same as being depressed, because any type can experience depression and sadness. Even in a happy state of affairs, 4’s seem to pick out the screaming blood-red elephant in the room and make sure they (and/or others) can see it. The state of mind of a 4 (especially 4w3) is an active frustration rather than a resigned depression (which more fits some versions of type 9).

Do not attempt to help a 4 see how everything is going to work out, or spout any kind of inspirational cliché. No, everything does not happen for a reason. Because in this moment, the 4 has suffered more than you. The 4’s problems are unsolvable. The 4 needs you to know that they can’t be helped, and they want you to experience them as such being in the image triad. The 4 will look inside their own selves, walk through every battered hallway and torn down room and find whatever it is they “are” and over-identify with the completely personal emotional state in an attempt to present their authentic truth to the world and prove that others couldn’t possibly understand them. 6's can also at times do a similar "everything happens to me" episode, and they can be just as reactive and immutable about their problem. However with 6, the focus is more projection of an internal issue as an external problem/threat, whereas with 4, the focus is more introjection of an external issue as a pathway to focus more on "me and my issue."

Again, this does not imply that 4's can't be happy or that they are always in a state of negative feeling. However it does mean that they are comfortable expressing negativity, complaining, etc. and will generally have a specific set of issues that they can't ever seem to solve. And they have no problem expressing those issues. For example, if the 4 has complained about never being able to have the lifestyle they want, and then they objectively accomplish that goal, there's a part of them that won't accept that they're content or happy and won't be comfortable with others congratulating them. They'll need to create a new problem. However it's important to note that almost any type can relate to feeling dissatisfied even when things are good. The difference is that 4's or types with 4 in the tritype will actively seek the dissatisfied state, perhaps finding some kind of comfort and beauty in that problem area, whereas some other types might feel the dissatisfaction and do things to lighten up.

4's tend to feel "hate" as an underlying driving emotion. They can have articulated and pointedly-directed feelings of hatred towards specific people or situations without any of the superego/connectedness of 9 to send the message that "hate is wrong." i don't do this, even if i feel "hate" i am not necessarily aware and i certainly won't feel "entitled" enough to subject random people, who haven't done anything wrong, to it. Many of the 9's mistyped as 4's will mistake their bubbling anger or the hidden shadow of their positivity as this kind of 4ish hatred. 4's have no superego need to be open-hearted, kind, or compassionate. really? i mean, a human being is complex, it's kinda weird to go "this is definitely not a 4 thing to do" This is not to say that they can't be all of these things, but it's not an idea built into their type structure and not something for which they will strive. its not the absolute primary thing i strive for but its kinda important to me 6's with 4 in the tritype, for example, will be comfortable being negative and have no problem expressing this verbally. However, 6's will still display a need for acceptance, a fear of being cast away, and they will emphasize how different/problematic they are as if it's a problem/danger to be put on the table right away. Even when 6's are at their worst, they still tend to be funny and likeable.

4's at their best can sometimes still come across as unreachable and rude. 4 is less likely than a 6 or 7 for example to come into a space and splat their problems on the table or be wildly bold and self-revealing right off the bat. 4 is a withdrawn type, so there's a part of them that doesn't even want to share themselves because they feel superior anyway. It's best to just sit up on your throne in jewels where everyone can see you but not actually reach you. Getting too close implies that you're "one of them," and of course you're not.

4’s run the gamut in style. 4w3's will generally do things to appear untouchable, elite, royal, and delicate. 4w5's are more eclectic and can be grungy. In any case, they can have a stylistic personal statement that reflects who they are that they are over-identified with. In an attempt to nurture the false belief that they are a separate outsider from others, they seek depth and deeper meaning in everything they encounter. Since everyone else is a common plebeian, the 4 must be the only one who can squeeze the emotional juices and oceanic depth out of life in order to transform the mundane into the tragically beautiful.

At their best, 4’s have a large capacity to be empathetic with a person’s darkest secrets, avoiding the superego responses of 1’s or 2’s, but not quite matching the ability to hold space for others like 9’s. That being said, there is nothing in the type 4 structure that feels compelled to be warm-hearted or compassionate as an underlying goodness. 4's are not judgemental in a right vs. wrong way, but can be super judgemental about things they hate. 4w3's can have a long list of aesthetic things that disgust them, whereas 4w5's can ted to direct their judgement/disgust at 5ish introspective concepts like politics/philosophy, etc.

Being part of the body/gut triad in the enneagram, the 9’s type structure is based around body boundaries and asserting one’s own existence, and the 9 boundary is fluid. Deep down, 9’s are stuck in the undifferentiated state of infant-hood, a time when there was no psychological boundary between self and other. As adults, this yields the 9’s philosophy that everyone and everything is somehow connected in a deep way. They are natural listeners and can find it easy to sympathize with others. They know what it feels like to be overlooked, and have a genuine way of accepting others for their faults. They don’t impose themselves and their needs/preferences on others, and they might not realize in the moment that they are allowing the needs/preferences of another to fill the space. They are probably the most universally likeable type, though they might not realize when they’ve made a positive impact on someone due to their amorphous internal landscape.

9 being the most common type, there are many different shades of them out there. They can look like almost any other type depending on who they are, which is also part of their chameleonic quality. Some 9’s are gentle and kind, others are dark and broody. Some are outwardly indolent, others are the president of the United States lol. Some are simple and basic, others are highly intellectual and introspective. Some admit to avoiding anger, others admit to getting very angry at times. Part of being a malleable type means that 9's can see themselves as many things, which makes it difficult for them often to correctly type as 9.

Part of the gut centre is “gut knowing,” or a sense of innate knowledge that comes from the body and the earth. However with 9’s, part of their type structure is not forcing action, so they can end up being stubborn about seeing what they want to see.

9’s have a way of staying calm and composed even in a crisis or great emotional turmoil. They will often experience emotions and thoughts somatically and won’t outwardly show them as much as others, but that doesn't mean they don't have intense emotions. Some 9's can sublimate anger and reactivity into sadness and be a "silent-sufferer," whereas others can attempt to find a boundary and a link to the gut centre. This idea of the silent sufferer has sometimes been misattributed to 4. Whereas 4 is the active amplification of reactions and stewing within internal states for the sake of authenticity, 9's can easily be flooded with emotions but have an internal message that says, "it's not okay for you to express this and bother anyone." 4's will not experience that internal message. i express my emotions pretty easily, indeed i feel the need to, but thinking back, times when i have been angry i must have repressed it somewhat, almost like trying to forget about it, even though it really bothered me.

Their thought process can be meandering, and they like to allow their ideas to wander. Their stories can sometimes be rambling as they traipse around ideas without a very strict focus. They might have brilliant ideas, but those ideas also have fluid boundaries between each other.

Unlike the aggressive types (3, 7, 8), the type 9 structure is not built around actively getting what they want from the world, as they prefer to let things happen as they may sometimes, or wait for things to happen at the right time. The animal that parallels type 9 has been described as the elephant. It takes a while for it to get moving, but once it does, it is slow and steady and unflappable. As it moves, everything is in a comfortable flow state, like the low buzzing hum of a fan. Some 9’s may admit to feeling “lazy,” whereas others get a lot done. Either way, 9’s can feel like they often lack a certain “life force.” Unlike their gut neighbours 8 and 1, 9’s gut energy stays trapped inside them and more in its comfort zone. They need to feel balanced, and will avoid things that don’t quite sit comfortably with them. They generally like to avoid the complications of life that could possibly threaten their autonomy. They like things to go smoothly and harmoniously.

Some 9's might not relate to the idea of "complacency" and argue that they work very hard and have a lot of goals. However 9's can "fall asleep" to their daily life no matter what the activities, and 9's often don't realize when their hyperactivity is actually accomplishing very little or still a way to stay not fully present. Part of 9 is a constant registering of how peaceful and calm things are, but they can never be peaceful and calm enough to suit the 9. So some 9's can be persistently anxious about the constant energy disturbance that comes from being in the world. They might retreat at times into periods of calm inaction to regroup. i am feeling peaceful and calm just reading this type description...

Not all 9's will actively invite this kind of "merge" or harmony. 9's with 2 in the tritype might have a self-image of being helpful and empathetic. Whereas other 9's (ex. 954/963) might actively avoid this "merge" by avoiding others or preemptively saying "no" to people. 9's have trouble accessing their own gut impulses and anger, and they instinctively know that this muddling will happen unless they preemptively give a "no" to maintain their position. 9w8 in general can also have an easier time being tough or saying no, whereas 9w1 has more of a 1ish philosophy around the 9 connectedness.

9’s are sensitive to being ignored, and would rather feel invited than have to assert their inclusion. They don’t have a strong enough boundary to send people away somewhat, but they fear getting too involved and having unwanted obligations. They want to connect with others, but still want to be able to slip away when needed. This bodily inertia can make 9’s unable to fully grasp a solid sense of self, like trying to find solid mass in a fog. There’s a low rumbling of anger at being pulled around by the world, and their best defence is stubbornness and passiveness. They get angry at themselves for saying yes when they didn’t want to. This leads to inner irritation and frustration at unwanted obligation. This can further lead to 9’s being “not there” enough for others who wonder how they disappeared into the fog. At the core, 9’s believe that saying no or asserting themselves is not worth it.

9’s often dislike conflict, and can view debates and arguments, or just yelling, as a big red alert on their flow radar. They feel like no one gives them the chance to speak anyway. They naturally try to see the good in people as a way of avoiding their anger, but anger can explode from them at times. People’s shocked reactions will just reinforce that anger is bad, and they will return to a more numbed state. 9's can often find an outlet for rage in online communities or indirect actions.

Part of that numbed state is not having high expectations of others. 9’s might not realize that they had such a profound effect on others in a relationship, and might stay somewhat emotionally disconnected on the outside. They might feel a lot internally and be confused that others haven’t read their minds. When others don’t notice, they make themselves more unavailable to play out the core belief that they are invisible anyway. This is also a way of protecting themselves from getting so attached that they can no longer slip in and out. At the core, the 9 ego feels that it has no self-importance or doesn’t matter. This will cause them to not fully show up to their instinctual drives via passive love triangles, doing busy work, or being half-themselves in their social interactions.

9’s will often deflect the spotlight off themselves onto you. When people notice them, they’re not always entirely sure why, and can find it hard to become solid flesh from fog all of the sudden. If they can’t see themselves, how can they accept others seeing them? They feel more comfortable directing the conversation to others. They can sometimes avoid commitment if the outcome is too complicated or they don’t have good gut feeling about it. 9’s need to take responsibly for their own will.

9's are probably the most likely to perform spiritual bypass, to think that because they are naturally calm and un-reactive that they have achieved spiritual goals. They can fail to realize how this calmness is actually an inner deadness to true reactions. They can take pride in how everyone else is reacting and they are the ones who are grounded and calm.

Being part of the fear triad or the head centre, the type 6 structure is based upon using cognition to help manage the dangers of the realities of life, aka the “who/what/where/when/why/how.” 6’s might not identify with “fear” itself as a primary driver, but fear is atomized into friendliness, aggressiveness, reactivity, swinging back and forth, searching for proof and authorities, being outspoken, wondering about others’ ulterior motives, self-deprecating humour, and identifying with the common man (or at the very least, avoiding arrogance.) The 6 is the person who when putting together a new table, screws the first leg on so tight that it ends up snapping.

There are so many different styles of 6 that it’s difficult to pinpoint something very specific about them, but one of the main facets of 6 is that they don’t want you to pin them down. While they might voraciously seek knowledge and the higher truth, they will simultaneously doubt that the truth exists in the source they’ve found. They will look for an external source and yet wriggle away from the contained box of false certainty. They won’t allow anyone or anything to take over their minds. Because of this, I believe 6’s have the hardest time typing themselves on the enneagram because they hate the idea of being pinned into a box and doubt any external authority that attempts to place them there. yeah so this is what i was referring to, i don't have this thing with "authority" this extremely. I am quite happy discovering things that I find unique and intelligent, and no one else has attempted to look at it that way, or phrase it that way. that is, i can connect and resonate with certain ideas and that's good enough for me, i don't constantly seek 'external authority' to validate the veracity or anything like that; in fact i don't think people are often good at spotting certain things anyway...

The three main styles of 6 do not relate to instinctual subtype as most commonly described, but more so to individual style and tri-type. 6’s can be sweet and friendly, reactive and intense, or rigid. Most 6’s run the gamut of all three. For example, many 6's can get themselves into black-and-white thinking, categorizing the bad person/group and the good person/group without any confusing exceptions.

6’s will often react to things that they deem unfair to restore equilibrium. They like to catch people in the act of lying or cast doubt on ideas that people believe to be certain. but this can also be a 5 thing for different reasons; with 5, it is more that they are 'idiosyncratic' and with 6 they are simply being skeptical. 6’s can be some of the most emotional types on the enneagram, though they will not necessarily identify with that. They often identify with being rational, enjoying the idea that they can make solid decisions that keep them safe and on track. 6’s view the world as an unpredictable place, so they construct a solid framework with which to safely navigate through the world. Their greatest fear is being wrong about everything, and having their intellectual safety net torn apart. 6’s want to believe that if they follow the rules, that they won’t get called out or get in trouble. However, they will often be seen completely contradicting their own submission and rebelling against their own safety net. 6’s can oscillate between completely rebelling against another’s authority, or blindly falling into the comfortable safety of another’s protection.

6’s are generally seen anticipating the worst-case scenario with regards to their instinct, and they will double check and ping pong back and forth as a result of this preparation. They want things to be clear, they want to know what’s going on with whom and when. 6’s will keep track of minute histories of people that's kinda intense, (i don't keep track of minute history unless it has to do with me, in which case it might be emotionally salient enough for me to remember it), and then project that a person has a particular motivation behind their action. They will make graphs of data and correlate different sources of information to try to come to a sense of truth.

6’s want to avoid making clear enemies. They are weary wary? of being in positions that put them at risk of attack, so they keep connected into the grid of humanity. They are the type most likely to identify with “humanness,” and will call out people who think they’re better than others, pulling them back down into the human space. They like people who are down to earth and authentic, and they can’t stand smooth talkers or people that have something to hide. They like to be “one of the guys/girls.” Even the most hyper intelligent 6’s with a natural uniqueness that sets them apart will insert something into themselves that makes them still seem down to earth. To avoid being too elitist, they will want to make sure that what they do is still relatable to people. Those 6’s (especially with 4 as their heart fix) will have an internal conflict between wanting to be a special snowflake but still doing so in a way that’s not going to completely strike them off the network of support they’ve built.

To refer back to the table metaphor above, 6’s focus so much on security that they end up not seeing the reality of the truth beyond their own projections. They need to learn when the screw is tight enough to support the table leg, and not forget about the other legs.

ok I will do one more...

Being part of the image triad, the type 2 structure is based around creating a particular crafted self. For 2’s, the image created is exactly what you need. 2’s want to be seen as empathetic, emotional, and have a deep desire to connect with and help you. They enjoy being needed because they have the necessarily empathetic and understanding abilities to be indispensable to you. 2’s identify with this sense of “pleasing” sweetness, and avoid harshness and anything that is too off-putting kinda but this is very specific to a certain situation I am thinking of; don't want to go into detail for fear of losing that connection with people.

That being said, 2’s can be incredibly aggressive and militant in their endeavours to do the right thing for you. They need to believe that they have the solution to your problems, and pride themselves on the fact that you let them in and allowed them to heal you. There is a sense of hidden arrogance or pride at being able to know you better than you know yourself. It is extremely frustrating for 2’s when they feel they know how to be there for you, but you won’t allow it. 2’s want to help you along your journey, and they don’t want any credit for it. The idea of even having an image of helpfulness would be upsetting to a 2.

Part of the “you-centredness” of 2 is being blind to their own needs. Since they identify so much with helping others, it can be difficult for them to ask for anything themselves. They believe that they deserve to be compensated for all the good they do, although it won’t be easy for them to access that deep dark forbidden selfishness.

2’s want to wrap themselves around your heart, have access to your entire being, but from a place of control where they can keep their own needs hidden. The difference between the Sexual instinct and core 2 is that sexual has a sense of vulnerability of self, whereas 2’s want to nurture the vulnerability of others.

 

[Opal Star]

1w2. Sometimes the moralism of 1w2 makes me question whether I am F or T. I tend to also score high on 3 as well. I am pretty certain about my tritype being 13x. Not so sure about my head trifix.

 

[niina21]

Type 1 - 7
Type 2 - 6.4
Type 4 - 5.7
Type 5 - 5.4
Type 9 - 4
Type 6 - 3.7

Wing 1w2 - 10.2
Wing 2w1 - 9.9
Wing 1w9 - 9
Wing 4w5 - 8.4
Wing 5w4 - 8.3
Wing 2w3 - 7.6
Wing 9w1 - 7.5
Wing 5w6 - 7.3
Wing 4w3 - 6.9
Wing 6w5 - 6.4
Wing 9w8 - 5.4
Wing 6w7 - 4.6

You are most likely a type 1 (the Reformer) with 1w2 wing.

Self-preservation variant


Type 1 sp
Type 4 sp
Type 6 sp
Type 2 sp
Type 3 sx
Type 5 so
Type 8 sx
Type 9 sp
Type 7 so