AO, I think that one of the reasons there was so much drama in this thread is because... well, you may find that we intuit your emotions and therefore think we understand you. But in essence, NTs do the same, and there's also proof in this thread for that. They just use 'logic'. I mean, how often haven't I had to clarify what I meant, because they drew a conclusion from what I said before that was..well...not correct. But they went with it anyways, as to them, it was logical that that's what I meant. And, indeed, afterwards, it was met with paranoia when I said that that was not what I meant (coz I must be trying to keep the peace or something now that I saw what kind of reaction I got). Isn't that what we do with your emotions? Isn't that NTs 'assuming' they understand what NFs are thinking?
And for that matter, those moments, are the moments that you feel most annoyed and frustrated, even attacked as an NF, as they're putting words and conclusions in your mouth that you didn't even say. To them it might just be a way of 'fleshing out the truth'. To me, it feels like you don't give me the benefit of the doubt and won't even ask a question to verify if your conclusion could possibly be way off base?
So the question becomes..is there something we can do about this? Do we both stop being sensitive to each other? Do we both take into account how the other one is likely to perceive our methods? Or is there some other option available?
You see, this is the main problem
I am sorry Amargith but about which drama you are talking about ?
For me this is just a chit chat.
If some other NTs got "excited" over this you will have to solve that with them.
Here is a classical problem.
I will use my mother for an example again.
Something happens and she get emotional in a negative way what means that you can't avoid her and she is clearly overdramatic.
But I don't see the point in this. So I just use my Te on her to kill the communication or to cause emotional cascade so that she can calm down.
So she ends up hurt even more. But the worst thing is that she can see how I can go quietly about my business like nothing happened. Which is because I didn't use any emotions.
You never seem to learn not to do this. You are repeating this over and over again even if we explain you not to do this. You will only be hurting yourself not me. This is why I/we think that this is simply stupid.
I am probably not a typical NT when it comes to this but this is my position.
Every time I see tears I roll my eyes and I can't help it.
I am willing to talk about it but I can't do this if you are crying, screaming or something like that. What matters to me are facts, projections, ideas and outcomes. Which is exactly why problem can happen in the first place.
I am sorry but I don't cry at all.
My mother is emotionally stablie person it is just that sometimes shit happen.
But over the years things got better since people learn over time after all.
Plus I try to look more emotional what has proven to be a good strategy.