Arclight
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I saw this quote in somebody's signature recently, and it sparked a thought or two
about something I find I encounter in others often, and maybe in myself.
I have no ill intent to either the person quoted or the person who's sig I lifted it from.
I am guessing both the original quote and the sig are displayed publicly.
I am using it solely because it beautifully exemplifies what I wish to convey.
I simply wish the discuss the philosophical content of this quote.
Therefore no names are mentioned because nothing is personal.
The quote;
I present most of the quote for context, but it's the bold that I am mostly discussing here.
This particular philosophy of projection that is being mentioned, is somewhat a popular statement on these and other, "like" forums.
But what exactly does it mean?
Can you really control how a person "characterizes" you?
Do you get to decide their judgment of you?
Do you decide that I am a nice guy..Or do I get to tell you I am a nice guy and you have to accept it , regardless of what you might be perceiving?
Who is a more accurate judge of a character, the one who projects it or the one who interacts with it?
I am sure we are all somewhat familiar with the concept of the EGO and the self.
As I understand it.. The EGO is a controlled version of ourselves that we project on the world. The person we present to others. (please correct me if I am wrong, and it is known as something else,using the wrong word does not take from what I am saying conceptually, either way).
There is often a dissonance between this Projected us.. and the real us.
Some people guard that "real" self ferociously.
So if there is a difference between who you are projecting and the actual "version" of you, why is the other person "projecting" something if they are "not characterizing you accurately"??
They are seeing what you are willing to give them.. If they are missing some important aspect of your personality perhaps it would better served if you just included that aspect of your "real" personality into your projected one.
It's like you present a forgery of yourself and then blame the person for not knowing it was fake.
Or if they spot it's a fake.. defend your right to use a forgery, or try to convince them its authentic.
Who is projecting here?
Discuss?
about something I find I encounter in others often, and maybe in myself.
I have no ill intent to either the person quoted or the person who's sig I lifted it from.
I am guessing both the original quote and the sig are displayed publicly.
I am using it solely because it beautifully exemplifies what I wish to convey.
I simply wish the discuss the philosophical content of this quote.
Therefore no names are mentioned because nothing is personal.
The quote;
I wish people would just own their choices, because I don't really give a rip what you do. Project your guilt onto me, and then I'll suddenly care, because you're not characterizing me accurately. I hate being anyone's blank slate."
I present most of the quote for context, but it's the bold that I am mostly discussing here.
This particular philosophy of projection that is being mentioned, is somewhat a popular statement on these and other, "like" forums.
But what exactly does it mean?
Can you really control how a person "characterizes" you?
Do you get to decide their judgment of you?
Do you decide that I am a nice guy..Or do I get to tell you I am a nice guy and you have to accept it , regardless of what you might be perceiving?
Who is a more accurate judge of a character, the one who projects it or the one who interacts with it?
I am sure we are all somewhat familiar with the concept of the EGO and the self.
As I understand it.. The EGO is a controlled version of ourselves that we project on the world. The person we present to others. (please correct me if I am wrong, and it is known as something else,using the wrong word does not take from what I am saying conceptually, either way).
There is often a dissonance between this Projected us.. and the real us.
Some people guard that "real" self ferociously.
So if there is a difference between who you are projecting and the actual "version" of you, why is the other person "projecting" something if they are "not characterizing you accurately"??
They are seeing what you are willing to give them.. If they are missing some important aspect of your personality perhaps it would better served if you just included that aspect of your "real" personality into your projected one.
It's like you present a forgery of yourself and then blame the person for not knowing it was fake.
Or if they spot it's a fake.. defend your right to use a forgery, or try to convince them its authentic.
Who is projecting here?
Discuss?