What's with Social Justice Warriors?

[The Cat]

Friendly reminder Kiddos...

 

[yeghor]

 

[prplchknz]

since you've already shared yours, i guess i can go. I don't like grits

 

[yeghor]

Friendly reminder Kiddos...

This is a cop out.

This community seems to be your typical neoliberal group with a few outspoken right wingers and marxists on the fringes

Yeah, seems to be a bunch of Ps with some token Js spread around.

 

[yeghor]

I heard we were having a party in here.
I'll bring the wine, rainbow colored liquor shots, blackjack and hookers. You bring the people.

Speaking of the devil.

Slavery was still a horrible thing before it was voted out. The majority means little here on how 'proper' something is or how things 'should' be. Just because everyone says it's right, doesn't mean it necessarily is, and you've had the luxury and patience of being explained to otherwise. All of which you have so far wasted.

You don't want to change. It discomforts you. It's all about you. Do you even think about how much it discomforts the other person either? No real discussion. No middle ground. Just stubbornly digging your heels into your preferences. Calling out people's absolutely reasonable discomfort as entitlement in a bad way. Yes, you know what? They are entitled to basic respect, basic respect that for whatever reason you are ignoring for... Slavishly following the 'defining majority'? Your attitude is what is falling outside of that basic respect, not theirs.

Their anguish is not caused by the society. It is internally caused by their inability/refusal to identify with any gender. The closest term I can think of is bisexual or androgynous.

If it hurts them to be assigned a gender by others based on their looks, they should learn to deal with it or form their isolated community if they cannot deal with it.

I don't care how they feel about themselves, if they have a dick and facial hair, they are a he to me.

If they have boobs and pussy, they are a she.

I will not refer to a singular person in plural either, that is bullshit.

 

[Coriolis]

Their anguish is not caused by the society. It is internally caused by their inability/refusal to identify with any gender. The closest term I can think of is bisexual or androgynous.

If it hurts them to be assigned a gender by others based on their looks, they should learn to deal with it or form their isolated community if they cannot deal with it.

I don't care how they feel about themselves, if they have a dick and facial hair, they are a he to me.

If they have boobs and pussy, they are a she.

I will not refer to a singular person in plural either, that is bullshit.

If "society" (meaning the individuals that comprise it, like you and me) respects people's wishes about pronouns and names, there is no anguish. Do you also assign roles to people based on their looks? Do you assume the sole woman in an office is the secretary, or that the black person is a janitor? Operating on stereotypes that way might be acceptable in other groups and communities you frequent, but it is not acceptable here. You don't have to like that or agree with it. You do have to abide by it.

 

[Earl Grey]

Their anguish is not caused by the society. It is internally caused by their inability/refusal to identify with any gender. The closest term I can think of is bisexual or androgynous.

If it hurts them to be assigned a gender by others based on their looks, they should learn to deal with it or form their isolated community if they cannot deal with it.

I don't care how they feel about themselves, if they have a dick and facial hair, they are a he to me.

If they have boobs and pussy, they are a she.

I will not refer to a singular person in plural either, that is bullshit.

@Coriolis said the things I wanted to and thus will not repeat here.

How crass of you. And what a blatant show of disrespect and lack of empathy- it is incredible you feel no shame. I see now that this isn't about the pronouns. You want to be allowed to throw words and pre-set ideals around with little care to how it affects others and would refuse to stop even when patiently told and explained otherwise to multiple times, insisting somehow that your own interpretation of things trumps all others. Ironic that you call those who ask otherwise politely, entitled. There is something fundamentally wrong with your method here. The root of your bigotry is very clear.

 

[The Cat]

If "society" (meaning the individuals that comprise it, like you and me) respects people's wishes about pronouns and names, there is no anguish. Do you also assign roles to people based on their looks? Do you assume the sole woman in an office is the secretary, or that the black person is a janitor? Operating on stereotypes that way might be acceptable in other groups and communities you frequent, but it is not acceptable here. You don't have to like that or agree with it. You do have to abide by it.

We let you believe you're some kind of intellectual...even though you really dont demonstrate any of the classic signs of intellectualism. So why not pay back the same courtesy? If you want to keep playing in our sandbox. You will follow the rules. If you cant for whatever reason; if you're just too special, or sensitive, if you're not socially literate enough to read the writing on the wall...You might as well just show yourself to the door...you'll do it sooner or later...

 

[FemMecha]

Friendly reminder Kiddos...

This is so on point. It pushes the big red button. I've watched other videos by this person and they really deconstruct the verbal game playing. I appreciate these because I can feel the game, but don't tend to deconstruct it so clearly.

 

[Totenkindly]

I kinda wasn't following the spectacular conclusion to this story arc yesterday, but anyway....

Setting aside all the philosophical and progressive social discussion, it just looks like the conversation in part got tied into forum behavior and thus a rules conflict. The absurdity lies in that, in a virtual community, no one has any idea who anyone else actually is anyway, so there is no basis to commune aside from the fact that we just accept people as they present themselves. No one knows your actual gender, race, age, appearance, or anything else unless they share it with you and you actually have faith they are being honest. It's like a text form of "Second Life," your persona is you here and there's no way to evaluate it further.

In light of that, the only sensible basis for a community is to accommodate people's self-representation as far as that goes, because there is no other basis to go by. It's a good faith environment. It's absurd to be debating with others about who YOU think they "really are" and thus labeling them as you personally see fit, versus each person just respecting the others on the site. If we all do that equally, then we're all on the same footing.

Other arguments were more "external world" arguments and could be addressed with other logic.

since you've already shared yours, i guess i can go. I don't like grits

You're right, grits suck.

Sorry, I'm just a poor little northern girl... Now, if we want to talk about scrapple

 

[The Cat]

You're right, grits suck.

Sorry, I'm just a poor little northern girl... Now, if we want to talk about scrapple

 

[prplchknz]

You're right, grits suck.

Sorry, I'm just a poor little northern girl... Now, if we want to talk about scrapple

what's scrapple?


also grits makes me throw up just thinking about them

 

[The Cat]

what's scrapple?


also grits makes me throw up just thinking about them

Then dont think about them. Think about edibles instead.

 

[prplchknz]

Then dont think about them. Think about edibles instead.

oh no now i'm sad i finished the rest of my edibles 2 days ago

 

[The Cat]

oh no now i'm sad i finished the rest of my edibles 2 days ago

 

[Totenkindly]

what's scrapple?

Lovely stuff.

Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name Pannhaas or "pan rabbit", is traditionally a mush of pork scraps and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour, often buckwheat flour, and spices. The mush is formed into a semi-solid congealed loaf, and slices of the scrapple are then pan-fried before serving.

It was really popular in rural PA where I grew up, although I think I have seen it in Giant down here in MD. People like to put maple syrup on it.

oh no now i'm sad i finished the rest of my edibles 2 days ago

A friend of mine just shouted on Facebook about how they are trying edibles for the second time and hope this time they don't experience the world like a crazy time loop or paranoid near-death experience.

I don't know whether she survived with her sanity intact, but I will let y'all know.

 

[prplchknz]

A friend of mine just shouted on Facebook about how they are trying edibles for the second time and hope this time they don't experience the world like a crazy time loop or paranoid near-death experience.

I don't know whether she survived with her sanity intact, but I will let y'all know.

eh you get used to it

 

[BlackCat]

Some of the problem with 'SJWs' of the annoying flavour that everyone is complaining about are their extremism and incredible noise, unwillingness to look at the facts, instead being reactionary and vocal in their discomfort at the expense of others, and insisting on their own interpretation of reality with little hope for real dialogue. You may not be standing in the same camp they are but you're doing very similar things. The absolute irony.

Funny how this works right? Almost like there are extremist thinkers on both ends of the spectrum! Lol.

 

[Earl Grey]

Funny how this works right? Almost like there are extremist thinkers on both ends of the spectrum! Lol.

Each side calls out the other as extremist. I just duck out of the crazy food fight (for the most part). Not interested in unproductive yelling, which is what the lot of extremists seem to be mostly interested in.

It seems really bad and weirdly common there in the US, just speaking as an outsider looking in.

 

[Coriolis]

Funny how this works right? Almost like there are extremist thinkers on both ends of the spectrum! Lol.

There certainly are, as both sides are populated by infallible human beings. If you compare an extremist shouting about the need to be inclusive and end discrimination, though, with one who wants to limit rights across the spectrum, or for certain subsets of it, they are not equivalent. Their manner and methods may be equally off-putting, but the underlying messages are quite different.

It is interesting that extremist behavior seems to garner one side more followers, but the other simply more criticism and dismissal. It is probably extrapolating too far to suggest that this says something about their followers.