Liminalbeing
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Hi, joined recently and require assistance with confirming my type. I am curious about your interpretation based on my answers. MBTI and Enneagram, either one will be alright, both would be better. I did a thread with this information on PerC but figured I should post it here too as the community here seems to be more active... and I would like to get maximum input in order to evaluate my type.
0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.
Not that I'm aware of. Maybe slightly unhealthy personality wise, been slacking off meaninglessly, evaluating my conclusions and giving in to sensory experiences, however a the same time, sensitive and annoyed by them. 21 years old, alien, current state of mind = unknown.
1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.
Source: www flickr com/photos/jakaphphotography/34443999565/sizes/l
(I have yet to reach 15 posts, hence the link format and lack of image)
My immediate impression surrounds the theme of convergence. Every line has a purpose, the contrast between the light and the dark, also has a purpose and the eventual singularity, the core. It kind of reminds me of how I think: I watch everything around me, I see everything, but I don't make a conscious effort to recognize them. It's like collecting unfiltered data. After that I sort of form impressions of the linkage between the data and if I choose to follow along the thought process consciously, they lead to one conclusion. It takes me a while to conclude my own views due to the lengthy process, but I digress, the colour scheme of that image brings about an isolated feel. The purity on both sides, unfiltered beauty and passion. Beyond all that, I respect the image due to the detailed technique used, not something I can patiently work on.
2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?
I wouldn't really travel far just to watch my favourite band perform. However if required to do so, and such a situation occurs, my initial thoughts would probably be to ask the driver if we ran out of petrol or if it was an engine failure, etc. I would scan the surroundings to look for a nearby stop, after looking through the vehicle. I would not get disappointed as it would be useless to waste emotions on such a situation and I would have to remain calm in order to react logically. If my friends react however, I would just let them be. I understand that they may not be the same as me, but at the same time, I forget that reacting is normal. I would be disgusted and try to get them to work with me, but If they refuse to then I wouldn't bother with them. The easiest thing to do would probably be to use my phone and call somebody who is more knowledgeable.Then I'd ask them if it would make sense to go on, In my opinion the driver should stay behind, if they choose to.
3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
I wouldn't trust the driver. I don't drink because I see intoxication to be a distraction. I would tag along and offer to drive them home, if necessary. However I hate parties as I am very sensitive to my environment, its just too loud and ultimately meaningless. I would opt to leave by myself if no one needed my company.
4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?
Inwardly I'd keep their opinion in mind, so as to be aware of what I wouldn't wish to speak to them about. I wouldn't really be bothered as everyone is entitled to their own views and as much as I hate to admit it, my views are subjective too. I just remain quiet outwardly, unless they ask me for my opinion. If they do, I'd tell the truth and would explain if they're willing to listen.
5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?
If I saw it, I would accept it as a coincidence. However if I had experienced it, I would definitely be confused and analyze the experience, comparing it to the belief, and understanding the difference in perception. I would ultimately tweak my beliefs accordingly, if its important enough.
6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?
I value knowledge, change, control, creativity, a little bit of emotion due to passion, freedom, individualism, refined elitism, etc. I formed conclusions over time based on observation and interpretation. I try to get to the core of my thoughts, and link everything else along the way. They don't usually change due to the internal accuracy involved, the evidence is perceived such that they all fit into that conclusion, they increase in quantity and develop over time. I don't actively incorporate experience when reviewing my values as personally, I prefer to not experience.
7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about you personality, what would it be? Why?
I am not too sure. I find people in general to be ignorant. I don't dislike humanity as a whole, I just dislike their search for safety and normalization, categorization, sustainability, society and all externally 'acceptable' beliefs that are essentially meaningless. I only know how to be myself and cannot experience living as someone else, which is why i fail to comprehend the manner in which people comment on me. If I could change one thing I would wish for more energy. I lack the energy to carry out my plans, which really depresses me. My ultimate objective would be to actualize my inner world, or at least integrate my idealized ideas and conclusions into my current reality.
8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
I pay attention to them, however I remain unaware if it is a gut feeling/hunch or just my thoughts. They are usually triggered when analyzing the information I perceive, any kind of information. So, I could say.. most of the time.
9. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?
Actualizing my plans energizes me. I wish to be alone, untouched emotionally, and socially, free to work on my own goals. Until they have been perfected in reality, they will hold no value or wisdom in the eyes of others. However, I am rather selfish and tend to act on it to establish an identity using my knowledge and perception. Taking care of my physical body drains me. It distracts me from my plans. Relationships too, unfortunately. I tend to cut off contact with others simply because they take up too much of my time. They ask for more than I have to give, and when I do explain it to them, they complain about my selfishness and lack of empathy. Its rather paradoxical as I do wish to connect with some ONE, as soon as I find what I'm looking for. However, I only know how to actualize my internal creations and a human being, isn't something I can actualize and be in control off, there would be no authenticity there. Socializing drains me too, however it depends on the company. Normal situations, I tend to avoid, however I remain perceptive to those I find useful. Everything in this reality should be a resource, something I can use to create.
10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
I don't find myself repressing anything other than my emotions. I am aware of them, however emotional inclusion tend to mess up the interaction, bringing out a sense of loss, in control. For those close to me, Our interaction is rather unfiltered. I just tend to keep information to myself, regarding my personal life and goals, those are private and I doubt they would even bother attempting to understand it.
I will fill up the other questionnaire if necessary. However I would appreciate responses first, and if you find a questionnaire that'd help with discerning my type, do let me know. I should also state that my desire to know my type is driven by the need to integrate into something more than my current self. The only way to use this objectively would be to identify my type and then proceed to get myself out of that box in a healthy manner and information, is the key. Its powerful.
0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.
Not that I'm aware of. Maybe slightly unhealthy personality wise, been slacking off meaninglessly, evaluating my conclusions and giving in to sensory experiences, however a the same time, sensitive and annoyed by them. 21 years old, alien, current state of mind = unknown.
1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.
Source: www flickr com/photos/jakaphphotography/34443999565/sizes/l
(I have yet to reach 15 posts, hence the link format and lack of image)
My immediate impression surrounds the theme of convergence. Every line has a purpose, the contrast between the light and the dark, also has a purpose and the eventual singularity, the core. It kind of reminds me of how I think: I watch everything around me, I see everything, but I don't make a conscious effort to recognize them. It's like collecting unfiltered data. After that I sort of form impressions of the linkage between the data and if I choose to follow along the thought process consciously, they lead to one conclusion. It takes me a while to conclude my own views due to the lengthy process, but I digress, the colour scheme of that image brings about an isolated feel. The purity on both sides, unfiltered beauty and passion. Beyond all that, I respect the image due to the detailed technique used, not something I can patiently work on.
2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?
I wouldn't really travel far just to watch my favourite band perform. However if required to do so, and such a situation occurs, my initial thoughts would probably be to ask the driver if we ran out of petrol or if it was an engine failure, etc. I would scan the surroundings to look for a nearby stop, after looking through the vehicle. I would not get disappointed as it would be useless to waste emotions on such a situation and I would have to remain calm in order to react logically. If my friends react however, I would just let them be. I understand that they may not be the same as me, but at the same time, I forget that reacting is normal. I would be disgusted and try to get them to work with me, but If they refuse to then I wouldn't bother with them. The easiest thing to do would probably be to use my phone and call somebody who is more knowledgeable.Then I'd ask them if it would make sense to go on, In my opinion the driver should stay behind, if they choose to.
3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
I wouldn't trust the driver. I don't drink because I see intoxication to be a distraction. I would tag along and offer to drive them home, if necessary. However I hate parties as I am very sensitive to my environment, its just too loud and ultimately meaningless. I would opt to leave by myself if no one needed my company.
4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?
Inwardly I'd keep their opinion in mind, so as to be aware of what I wouldn't wish to speak to them about. I wouldn't really be bothered as everyone is entitled to their own views and as much as I hate to admit it, my views are subjective too. I just remain quiet outwardly, unless they ask me for my opinion. If they do, I'd tell the truth and would explain if they're willing to listen.
5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?
If I saw it, I would accept it as a coincidence. However if I had experienced it, I would definitely be confused and analyze the experience, comparing it to the belief, and understanding the difference in perception. I would ultimately tweak my beliefs accordingly, if its important enough.
6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?
I value knowledge, change, control, creativity, a little bit of emotion due to passion, freedom, individualism, refined elitism, etc. I formed conclusions over time based on observation and interpretation. I try to get to the core of my thoughts, and link everything else along the way. They don't usually change due to the internal accuracy involved, the evidence is perceived such that they all fit into that conclusion, they increase in quantity and develop over time. I don't actively incorporate experience when reviewing my values as personally, I prefer to not experience.
7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about you personality, what would it be? Why?
I am not too sure. I find people in general to be ignorant. I don't dislike humanity as a whole, I just dislike their search for safety and normalization, categorization, sustainability, society and all externally 'acceptable' beliefs that are essentially meaningless. I only know how to be myself and cannot experience living as someone else, which is why i fail to comprehend the manner in which people comment on me. If I could change one thing I would wish for more energy. I lack the energy to carry out my plans, which really depresses me. My ultimate objective would be to actualize my inner world, or at least integrate my idealized ideas and conclusions into my current reality.
8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
I pay attention to them, however I remain unaware if it is a gut feeling/hunch or just my thoughts. They are usually triggered when analyzing the information I perceive, any kind of information. So, I could say.. most of the time.
9. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?
Actualizing my plans energizes me. I wish to be alone, untouched emotionally, and socially, free to work on my own goals. Until they have been perfected in reality, they will hold no value or wisdom in the eyes of others. However, I am rather selfish and tend to act on it to establish an identity using my knowledge and perception. Taking care of my physical body drains me. It distracts me from my plans. Relationships too, unfortunately. I tend to cut off contact with others simply because they take up too much of my time. They ask for more than I have to give, and when I do explain it to them, they complain about my selfishness and lack of empathy. Its rather paradoxical as I do wish to connect with some ONE, as soon as I find what I'm looking for. However, I only know how to actualize my internal creations and a human being, isn't something I can actualize and be in control off, there would be no authenticity there. Socializing drains me too, however it depends on the company. Normal situations, I tend to avoid, however I remain perceptive to those I find useful. Everything in this reality should be a resource, something I can use to create.
10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
I don't find myself repressing anything other than my emotions. I am aware of them, however emotional inclusion tend to mess up the interaction, bringing out a sense of loss, in control. For those close to me, Our interaction is rather unfiltered. I just tend to keep information to myself, regarding my personal life and goals, those are private and I doubt they would even bother attempting to understand it.
I will fill up the other questionnaire if necessary. However I would appreciate responses first, and if you find a questionnaire that'd help with discerning my type, do let me know. I should also state that my desire to know my type is driven by the need to integrate into something more than my current self. The only way to use this objectively would be to identify my type and then proceed to get myself out of that box in a healthy manner and information, is the key. Its powerful.
