Trump vs. Biden

[Firebird 8118]

Well, kinda the same happened to my people as well (and almost nobody really cared). So from that side you have my honest understanding.


However MSM media no matter how advanced they are they can't really pass the horror if you have never experienced one yourself. Since genuine understanding of that requires all senses and practical experiences. What short texts or videos can't really picture/present.

*sigh* Sad but true... sorry to hear about your people suffering the same way too, humans can be so cruel to each other.

We have books out there written by older KPs about our culture and history. There’s even a more recent memoir, “Our Moon Has Blood Clots,” which gives a better picture of what happened around 1990 (before and after) and where we stand right now.

 

[ceecee]

He erroneously believes a vote against Trump is a vote for all those things, and a vote for Trump is a vote against them. He’s wrong. If you go through his post history, you’ll see he’s clearly very emotional and very biased in his assessment of this election, but he has nothing to fear.

There’s hope for our future, but the first step is filling the vast chasm that has been dug between us.

Please ignore then hundreds of thousands this administration has killed, raped, assaulted, traumatized, allowed to starve to death or or perish in a fire but yeah, let's worry about what the fucking dictionary says from an extreme right, loaded with propaganda and fake news outfit like CNS News?

The reason the right acts and talks like this is because they know Trump ripped the mask off of their ideology and warped view of reality for everyone to see and now - they mad. And it's all your fault because you are staring at a screen.

Except he's posting this on an internet forum. 🤡

 

[Virtual ghost]

Wisconsin Was Never A Safe Blue State

 

[FemMecha]

As a reminder...

A Timeline of Donald Trump’s Inappropriate History With Women | Glamour

 

[Red Memories]

He erroneously believes a vote against Trump is a vote for all those things, and a vote for Trump is a vote against them. He’s wrong. If you go through his post history, you’ll see he’s clearly very emotional and very biased in his assessment of this election, but he has nothing to fear.

There’s hope for our future, but the first step is filling the vast chasm that has been dug between us.

I think the election will help, but at this rate, I think we need new faces in the congress and the senate if we're actually going to "heal the chasm".

I think my issue is...if I vote Trump, I'm voting for a narcissist, someone who is not willing to peacefully back down, that bullies his way into everything and is told he is winning, and is a completely ungodly individual, do not care HOW many fucking Bible's that sick man holds.

If I vote Biden, I don't know what I'm voting for at this rate because he changes his story to fit what he thinks will get him elected, like a real politician of course. I don't like the idea of anyone packing a court period, I don't like the cancel culture and shit that these supporters live under, and it does kind of feel like voting for him isn't supporting it necessarily but it feels like they've attempted to bully others into having their point of view or else with little repercussion from the bias that is kind of there. Does he really believe in all this stuff? I'd like to think not, but I fear Biden is just a pawn. Of course I feel more inclined to vote something I don't know in for chance, but I do feel quesy to think I would enable these people to bully others into submission too.

I have a hard time seeing the hope, but I do hope you're right. I think my biggest fear at this point is the fighting never stops, both parties appear to want complete dominance, and we have a grand civil war where the entire country goes down and we suddenly are part of Russia or China. This election year has not been good for my GAD. XD

In seriousness, I feel anger at both parties for making so much shit right now a political game. I feel like neither one cares and both sides enable the absolute worst people. To me these SJWs attempting to suppress any alternate opinion are not much better than a white supremacist trying to suppress every black opinion. The way these people behave is kind of how Trump got in, in the first place in my mind. Obama enabled these people because well, Obama didn't say much. I fear Biden lacks the diplomatic backbone to actually do any of the things and I wasn't totally in for Kamala Harris. But I am one of those moderate democrats trying to figure out where I still fit in the democratic party - which is frustrating in itself.

 

[ceecee]

I think the election will help, but at this rate, I think we need new faces in the congress and the senate if we're actually going to "heal the chasm".

I think my issue is...if I vote Trump, I'm voting for a narcissist, someone who is not willing to peacefully back down, that bullies his way into everything and is told he is winning, and is a completely ungodly individual, do not care HOW many fucking Bible's that sick man holds.

If I vote Biden, I don't know what I'm voting for at this rate because he changes his story to fit what he thinks will get him elected, like a real politician of course. I don't like the idea of anyone packing a court period, I don't like the cancel culture and shit that these supporters live under, and it does kind of feel like voting for him isn't supporting it necessarily but it feels like they've attempted to bully others into having their point of view or else with little repercussion from the bias that is kind of there. Does he really believe in all this stuff? I'd like to think not, but I fear Biden is just a pawn. Of course I feel more inclined to vote something I don't know in for chance, but I do feel quesy to think I would enable these people to bully others into submission too.

I have a hard time seeing the hope, but I do hope you're right. I think my biggest fear at this point is the fighting never stops, both parties appear to want complete dominance, and we have a grand civil war where the entire country goes down and we suddenly are part of Russia or China. This election year has not been good for my GAD. XD

In seriousness, I feel anger at both parties for making so much shit right now a political game. I feel like neither one cares and both sides enable the absolute worst people. To me these SJWs attempting to suppress any alternate opinion are not much better than a white supremacist trying to suppress every black opinion. The way these people behave is kind of how Trump got in, in the first place in my mind. Obama enabled these people because well, Obama didn't say much. I fear Biden lacks the diplomatic backbone to actually do any of the things and I wasn't totally in for Kamala Harris. But I am one of those moderate democrats trying to figure out where I still fit in the democratic party - which is frustrating in itself.

I think you should vote for Trump. It would make you feel better and provide a voice for your biggest concerns. I would also crush the SJW issue - this seems to be a very big deal to you too. I think you very much fit into the Democratic party as it is - it's GOP lite, it sounds to me like that's where your views are.

 

[Red Memories]

I think you should vote for Trump. It would make you feel better and provide a voice for your biggest concerns. I would also crush the SJW issue - this seems to be a very big deal to you too. I think you very much fit into the Democratic party as it is - it's GOP lite, it sounds to me like that's where your views are.

*lightly hopes I've detected sarcasm and not reality*

At the least, I am voting a third party. I do not want to vote for Trump. At the most, I make a reluctant vote for Biden.

Trump does not provide a voice for my concerns - at least with Biden there's something to expect. you know, a real plan, not just discussion out of the ass.

I want to see a real leader emerge, but we got neither of the things. And none of our congressional or senate people act much better than 5year olds bickering. I am burned out from the electional vomit. Insulting people about it doesn't help the cause whatsoever.

But none of the democratic candidates I was interested in made it here, so here we are, bickering over Biden vs. Trump when for me at least it is Biden vs. writing someone in at this rate.

 

[Stigmata]

I don't even understand why you'd go through the motions of voting if you're just going to write a vote in or vote 3rd party. In a perfect world there would be viable 3rd party option, and that's ultimately what needs to happen to right the ship of American politics, but sadly that's not the case as it stands in reality.

 

[Red Memories]

I don't even understand why you'd go through the motions of voting if you're just going to write a vote in or vote 3rd party. In a perfect world there would be viable 3rd party option, and that's ultimately what needs to happen to right the ship of American politics, but sadly that's not the case as it stands in reality.

Because I'm edgy

jk in seriousness it is my rebellious frustration with 2 party corrupt systems where neither one really follows through, has answers, or does anything about the real problems we face or even cares truly for that matter. I'd rather my vote be there than not be there.

I am also apparently not allowed to complain how either side behaves without being tossed into the bothsideism might as well vote for Trump wheelhouse. Don't think I'm his fanbase, even as a Christian. lol. I believe if you read the Bible, God told us NOT to act like him. woops.

and none of the candidates I was leaning towards got here because the democrats wanted...Joe Biden? I mean don't get me wrong...I didn't exactly want Bernie Sanders either, but we had such a large group and so many good reasonable options that I would've been way more compelled to listen to or could've duked it out better. Biden is so wishy washy and its hard to feel like you REALLY know what you're getting. With the others you at least know what you are voting with.

 

[ceecee]

*lightly hopes I've detected sarcasm and not reality*

At the least, I am voting a third party. I do not want to vote for Trump. At the most, I make a reluctant vote for Biden.

Trump does not provide a voice for my concerns - at least with Biden there's something to expect. you know, a real plan, not just discussion out of the ass.

I want to see a real leader emerge, but we got neither of the things. And none of our congressional or senate people act much better than 5year olds bickering. I am burned out from the electional vomit. Insulting people about it doesn't help the cause whatsoever.

But none of the democratic candidates I was interested in made it here, so here we are, bickering over Biden vs. Trump when for me at least it is Biden vs. writing someone in at this rate.

Well, no it's not really sarcastic. If you want to do what is best for you, vote for Trump or write in some other right candidate that's more palatable but generally has the same platform and policy as Trump and the GOP. One that will change laws to silence dissent, pack the courts with insane conservatism and make believe legal interpretations, ignore norms and look for the easiest ways to profit. But be nice and civilized about it and crush bickering. Authoritarian rules does that very effectively - extrajudicial executions of American citizens also does that.

Trump Appears to Admit Extrajudicial Killing of Michael Reinoehl Was Planned

So much for that due process thing. And I know I will get that exactly from more Trump. No question at all.

I'm not a Biden fan. However, I'm not voting for what is best for me. I also know the day he is elected is the day the fight for the people of this country starts, not ends. This is why I want to elect MORE AOC's, Ilhan Omar's, Katie Porters and I will be able to do that if Joe Biden is elected and Dems take the Senate and keep the house. Those are the people I want leading and governing for ALL Americans. Not just Democrats.

 

[ceecee]

I don't even understand why you'd go through the motions of voting if you're just going to write a vote in or vote 3rd party. In a perfect world there would be viable 3rd party option, and that's ultimately what needs to happen to right the ship of American politics, but sadly that's not the case as it stands in reality.

I understand not voting. Why should someone when the candidates aren't offering anything. Get it totally. Writing people in is equivalent to a 3 year old temper tantrum.

Maryland Governor Casts Vote for Ronald Reagan

Why would you ever admit this to anyone as a politician of any party? To the press no less?? He just lost credibility and he was one of a few R's I took seriously. Not now.

 

[Red Memories]

Well, no it's not really sarcastic. If you want to do what is best for you, vote for Trump or write in some other right candidate that's more palatable but generally has the same platform and policy as Trump and the GOP. One that will change laws to silence dissent, pack the courts with insane conservatism and make believe legal interpretations, ignore norms and look for the easiest ways to profit. But be nice and civilized about it and crush bickering. Authoritarian rules does that very effectively - extrajudicial executions of American citizens also does that.

Trump Appears to Admit Extrajudicial Killing of Michael Reinoehl Was Planned

So much for that due process thing. And I know I will get that exactly from more Trump. No question at all.

I'm not a Biden fan. However, I'm not voting for what is best for me. I also know the day he is elected is the day the fight for the people of this country starts, not ends. This is why I want to elect MORE AOC's, Ilhan Omar's, Katie Porters and I will be able to do that if Joe Biden is elected and Dems take the Senate and keep the house. Those are the people I want leading and governing for ALL Americans. Not just Democrats.

I am not really sure what's best for me or for anyone for that matter is voting for someone who equates to a cult leader in my mind and drives anxiety and fear.

Let me put it this way...
1. I notice most of the very strong SJWs which I spoke of were strong Sanders or no one supporters, and so it left a sour taste in my mouth about Sanders.
2. I didn't really feel like Obama was a strong solution, and I feel the same toward Biden. I don't really vote on nostalgia.

Honestly?
I feel like I would've voted for Elizabeth Warren without the same hesitation. She isn't the smartest speaker but she at least is direct and you know exactly what she stands for. I like she was legitimately trying to speak for native Americans as well because what this country has done to them is near genocide and disgusting, and they have such a rich culture that we destroyed. Obviously I made it clear there's no democrat I 100% agree with, but I align with them far more than I ever will Republicans. if nothing else I want a democrat back to protect our wildlife again bcause holy shit those EPA deregulations. x.x

 

[Red Memories]

I understand not voting. Why should someone when the candidates aren't offering anything. Get it totally. Writing people in is equivalent to a 3 year old temper tantrum.

Maryland Governor Casts Vote for Ronald Reagan

Why would you ever admit this to anyone as a politician of any party? To the press no less?? He just lost credibility and he was one of a few R's I took seriously. Not now.

If you're going to write in, at least write someone alive or in the running.

those Harambe people from 2016 made me hate people.

 

[Stigmata]

I understand not voting. Why should someone when the candidates aren't offering anything. Get it totally. Writing people in is equivalent to a 3 year old temper tantrum.

Maryland Governor Casts Vote for Ronald Reagan

Why would you ever admit this to anyone as a politician of any party? To the press no less?? He just lost credibility and he was one of a few R's I took seriously. Not now.

That's what I'm saying. I can get how someone can either be so disenchanted or apathetic with the current state of US politics that they just decide to opt out, accepting that there's really nothing worthwhile ahead coming from whichever side wins. I get it. What I don't understand is why someone would go through all the effort of going out, possibly having to endure the effects of active voter suppression tactics in the form long waiting lines due to limited voting centers, and taking the risk of being exposed to the coronavirus, just to throw their vote away. I just...can't.

Like, do you think one of the candidates is gonna get wind of your written in ballot and it trigger some epiphany, causing them to rethink their entire policy strategy up to that point?

 

[Red Memories]

That's what I'm saying. I can get how someone can either be so disenchanted or apathetic with the current state of US politics that they just decide to opt out, accepting that there's really nothing worthwhile ahead coming from whichever side wins. I get it. What I don't understand is why someone would go through all the effort of going out, possibly having to endure the effects of active voter suppression tactics in the form long waiting lines due to limited voting centers, and taking the risk of being exposed to the coronavirus, just to throw their vote away. I just...can't.

Like, do you think one of the candidates is gonna get wind of your written in ballot and it trigger some epiphany, causing them to rethink their entire policy strategy up to that point?

YES EXACTLY no jk

I guess I WOULD hope perhaps one day there IS such an epiphany but sadly we all reiterate this same sad tale when if all these disgruntled voters would band together and write in the person anyway (fuck even if its Sanders) maybe the parties would realize how stupid they are. I don't know.

 

[ceecee]

I am not really sure what's best for me or for anyone for that matter is voting for someone who equates to a cult leader in my mind and drives anxiety and fear.

Let me put it this way...
1. I notice most of the very strong SJWs which I spoke of were strong Sanders or no one supporters, and so it left a sour taste in my mouth about Sanders.
2. I didn't really feel like Obama was a strong solution, and I feel the same toward Biden. I don't really vote on nostalgia.

Honestly?
I feel like I would've voted for Elizabeth Warren without the same hesitation. She isn't the smartest speaker but she at least is direct and you know exactly what she stands for. I like she was legitimately trying to speak for native Americans as well because what this country has done to them is near genocide and disgusting, and they have such a rich culture that we destroyed. Obviously I made it clear there's no democrat I 100% agree with, but I align with them far more than I ever will Republicans. if nothing else I want a democrat back to protect our wildlife again bcause holy shit those EPA deregulations. x.x

I don't really know what to tell you about Bernie. I took the time to read policy and ask questions of him after 2016, in depth. What I found was a person with a lot of government experience and policy development that the US absolutely needs and wants. Foreign policy is the only place I found lacking and that can remedied with the right people which I expected he would have brought on. "SJW's" never entered the picture to me because why would they? But other politicians hold similar policies to Bernie and i back them for the same reasons - policy matters, not the person.

Maybe you should write in Elizabeth Warren.

 

[Stigmata]

I am not really sure what's best for me or for anyone for that matter is voting for someone who equates to a cult leader in my mind and drives anxiety and fear.

Let me put it this way...
1. I notice most of the very strong SJWs which I spoke of were strong Sanders or no one supporters, and so it left a sour taste in my mouth about Sanders.
2. I didn't really feel like Obama was a strong solution, and I feel the same toward Biden. I don't really vote on nostalgia.

Honestly?
I feel like I would've voted for Elizabeth Warren without the same hesitation. She isn't the smartest speaker but she at least is direct and you know exactly what she stands for. I like she was legitimately trying to speak for native Americans as well because what this country has done to them is near genocide and disgusting, and they have such a rich culture that we destroyed. Obviously I made it clear there's no democrat I 100% agree with, but I align with them far more than I ever will Republicans. if nothing else I want a democrat back to protect our wildlife again bcause holy shit those EPA deregulations. x.x

I don't think Joe Biden was anyone's first choice (outside of the democratic establishment), but like a bad arranged marriage in which the dowry has been paid, we're just gonna have to make this thing work. Maybe he likes ski ball and trolling specific sports fanbases as much as I do. Maybe he wakes up early and surprises you by cooking breakfast on Sunday morning.

Elizabeth Warren was my first choice, but she's out of the race -- we can have any range of feelings we want about it, but that's just the reality of our current situation, and she realizes the gravity of our current situation when she decided to not only endorse but actively campaign for Joe Biden.

For me, Joe Biden being elected isn't the end, but the means by which we can continue the democratic process by which we start working towards actual change in this country. I believe the progressive wing of the party made a concession with his nomination, but will absolutely hold him very accountable for what comes next if he happens to be elected.

 

[Totenkindly]

Maryland Governor Casts Vote for Ronald Reagan

Why would you ever admit this to anyone as a politician of any party? To the press no less?? He just lost credibility and he was one of a few R's I took seriously. Not now.

Damn. I apologize for Maryland residents, even though I didn't vote for Hogan.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I don't even understand why you'd go through the motions of voting if you're just going to write a vote in or vote 3rd party. In a perfect world there would be viable 3rd party option, and that's ultimately what needs to happen to right the ship of American politics, but sadly that's not the case as it stands in reality.

Why vote 3rd party ?
Because someone has to place first brick.
Since viable 3rd party is probably one of the last things that will happen on it's own.

 

[Firebird 8118]

Why vote 3rd party ?
Because someone has to place first brick.
Since viable 3rd party is probably one of the last things that will happen on it's own.

And this is why we need Ranked Choice Voting, ladies and gentlemen.