andresimon
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Does not compute.![]()
Ahhh you must be high.
Does not compute.![]()
I suppose coming at it from the angle of respect, I might change a habit if I thought one of my peers did not respect me and I wanted to be respected. I guess maybe that's a form of external accountability.
On a different note, I was reading the rebel description and wondering what it means to tie your choices to your identity and how that helps.
According to your answers, your dominant Tendency is Obliger.
Obligers respond readily to outer expectations, but struggle to meet inner expectations. In other words, they work hard not to let other people down, but they often let themselves down.
Obligers may find it difficult to form a habit, because often we undertake habits for our own benefit, and Obligers do things more easily for others than for themselves.
For Obligers, the key to forming habits is to create external accountability.
I wonder what the correlations between these things are?
Maybe this is actually correlated with the humors?
Upholder-Choleric
Questioner- Melancholic
Obliger-Phlegmatic
Rebel-Sanguine
Eric B, could any of these results have something to do with your temperament system?
Both dimensions at first sound like "wanted" behavior (how much we want others to approach us to either include us or make decisions for us). But "Expectations" seems to covey how we react when it's already established what influence people have over us. So it may only correspond to temperament to a certain extent.
Supine will be affected by outer expectations and resist inner ones (because he needs others to direct him, hence, Obliger), while Choleric will resist outer expectations, and rely on inner expectations (they are the ones who will say something like "I'm pushing myself; I'm as hard on others as I am of myself", etc. Hence, Questioner). The Sanguine might be a "Rebel", and The Melancholy is likely an "Upholder", who will accept others' infuence over their decisions if it is an authorized authority, and in a known area. (this would fit [MENTION=19719]Forever[/MENTION] 's matching to Keirsey). The Phlegmatic might vary, as he is driven primarily by the need to preserve his low energy reserve (and take the path of least resistance), and this will lead him to want to meet his own and others' expectations (to keep the peace), but when the energy runs out, he'll start failing his own, and then when others push, he's [infamously] stubbornly resist.
I also believe the influence of temperament blend figures in it. So there's both Keirsey (conative, or action), and there's also Interaction Style (social)
I got "Obliger". I woud think "Questioner" (by literal name) or "Rebel" (by seemingly not being good at meeting either expectations), but the Supine-Choleric mix is what has me torn between my own inner resolves and outer expectations. Since I'm both; Supine in the social area; or INP, and Choleric in the action area, NT, then in surface interaction, I'm very impressionable, but when it comes to your way or mine, I want to do my own thing, and often, everyone else do it as well. But this is often hampered by the surface are, which you have to get by in dealing with people to begin with.
So it's a constant back and forth tug of war and can be pretty confusing or frustrating. On this test, the obliging apparentely edged out, thoug I'm a bit surprosed from the choices I entered. It must have been pretty close, but this one doesn't give relative percentages or anything like that.
It seems the results varied, with some fitting, and some not. This is never going to come out exact, because it is an entirely different framework, and this not even takigng into consideration the infuence of "nurture" (learned behavior and conditioning, over "nature").