Guys - you re both venting, and it is both legit.
So let eachother vent.
Ss, you re right, your life isnt magically better and yes, we have no idea what its like on your side but that also goes both ways.
You dont want us to invalidate your concerns? Great, how about you do the same for us and stop calling the very real struggle we have in the real world 'playing the victim' and 'a myth'. From personal experience, i can assure you it is very real.
Also, denying this dismisses in a very real way many of your types' strenghts. There is a reason you are so numerous - because your type has an intrinsic value in keeping society going. And yes, that does frustrate intuitives as they try to find their place themselves. And no, of course those strenghts dont necessarily magically keep you safe from everything out there, but it would be a shame to think of them as irrelevant. Many an N would kill to have those skills. At least, i know i would. In fact, im currently immersing myself in SP culture to hobe those skills a little more. And as good as im getting, i know i wil never hold a candle to the Se users i work with. But i at least am starting to be able to hold my own
Now, due to the history of this place, where it started out with INTPs trying to find their own nook in the wall, sensor griping was absolutely part of it. It was venting, that went unchallenged and took anchor. While you did get the brunt of it, trust me, we NFs got our fair share as well.
There were times when newbs who came in got seriously intellectually frisked and tested, especially when typing as an NT and even moreso as INTP. They d have their NT card revoked and got demoted in credibility if they came up short - ever so playfully, of course
Thankfully, that stuff has gradually been improving as the forum developed its own culture. Now, its far from perfect and Ss still get the worst of it, comparatively speaking.
Meanwhile, Im still allergic myself to the amount of troglodytes who refuse to take me seriously due to my ENFP label as well and pull the NT intelligence card - like thats valid just coz you re NT and intelligence is the only thing that matters in this world.
But the fact is that, at least back when I was a newb, venting about the barrage of Ss that shoved reality down my throat and expected me to just stop whining and just do shit the way they wanted it done, was...well, needed for me to regain my sanity AND my appreciation for them, because they were so different. Since it was so rare to find people who shared that experience, it was a godsend to find this place and actually feel like a normal person who wasnt a non-stop screw up or a bumbling uncoordinated idiot for once. (And I assume that the NT posturing we NFs get is likely due to the amount of ethics NTs got fed by mom/family, in a similar fashion)
Of course, the venting is true for you too - and in that regard this thread serves a vital function. But better yet, if both parties can understand and respect the need from the other to vent ( in certain threads) without it becoming necessarily gospel on the rest of the forum, that would be even more beneficial.
For years, this place was a safe venting ground for Ns. Now that we do have more Ss, perhaps we can shift that to just a thread or two(like the specific type hate threads) and instead move to the mission of this place - which is to increase understanding instead.
As for the MBTI profiles - that is beyond our scope to fix unfortunately, but perhaps we can put some edited ones on the resources pages of the website itself?
Anyways, with that, i ll leave you to your venting thread
