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[Virtual ghost]

What Can House Republicans Actually Do To The Manhattan DA?

 

[Totenkindly]

Total bullshit. Things are just gonna blow out of control soon.

Tennessee House GOP expels 2 Democrats in retaliation over gun control protest, on ‘sad day for democracy’ | CNN

Two Democratic members of the Tennessee House of Representatives were expelled while a third member was spared in an ousting by Republican lawmakers that was decried by the trio as oppressive, vindictive and racially motivated.

amp.cnn.com

 

[The Cat]

Total bullshit. Things are just gonna blow out of control soon.

Tennessee House GOP expels 2 Democrats in retaliation over gun control protest, on ‘sad day for democracy’ | CNN

Two Democratic members of the Tennessee House of Representatives were expelled while a third member was spared in an ousting by Republican lawmakers that was decried by the trio as oppressive, vindictive and racially motivated.

amp.cnn.com

yeah, i hope the people vote them back into office

 

[Totenkindly]

yeah, i hope the people vote them back into office

Well, they could potentially just be reappointed.

 

[ceecee]

yeah, i hope the people vote them back into office

I think that's pretty likely. This is getting way more coverage than I thought it would which is a plus and I hope the national GOP backs this 100%. I hope leadership praises this move loud and proud.

 

[The Cat]

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[ceecee]

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I don't think I have seen him this angry in a vid before.

 

[The Cat]

I don't think I have seen him this angry in a vid before.

You have to go back a bit and it was another authoritarian thing, but i dont think he was 8 takes angry, I dont think I could trust a reporter who could be talking head passionless about this. There's a lot of things happening very quickly and so much out there seems to be a distraction from the sweeping push towards fascism...

 

[Virtual ghost]

Yeah, booting legal representatives out through the door isn't exactly democratic move. But what is kinda surprising is that this was legal and that laws seems to allow something like this.

 

[Totenkindly]

Wasn't it because they had a super-majority? Basically this seems to be the end result of all the other discrimination and gerrymandering and whatever else. Once you reach this kind of critical mass, they can just practice this behavior with impunity. The system didn't really anticipate this type of imbalance to occur. Kind of like the assumption that people will vote out of office representatives who are bad for or just immoral/terrible leaders -- because it didn't factor in the large influx of misinformation from today's (mis)information culture along with the rabid stupidity and prejudices of voters. I think we have seen that voters no longer vote in their own best interests and society is catering to conspiracy theories and half-assed beliefs on a large scale.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Yes, it was due to super majority from what I understand. However in my political culture that still doesn't make it ok. Since someone elected those people and from what I understand they didn't do anything that is objectively criminal. So all of this is basically in the domain of "personal opinion". In other words if this practice runs unchecked you can through out many "bad" representatives. What is evidently undemocratic.


But yeah, whoever wrote the rule book he/she evidently didn't anticipate all the things that modern era brings.

 

[Totenkindly]

Yes, it was due to super majority from what I understand. However in my political culture that still doesn't make it ok. Since someone elected those people and from what I understand they didn't do anything that is objectively criminal. So all of this is basically in the domain of "personal opinion". In other words if this practice runs unchecked you can through out many "bad" representatives. What is evidently undemocratic.

I don't think anyone disagrees with you. It is pissing a lot of people off, as it's a conscious, strategic, and purposeful abuse of the system we're supposed to have here -- that these people even pretend to believe in -- and is decidedly undemocratic.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I don't think anyone disagrees with you. It is pissing a lot of people off, as it's a conscious, strategic, and purposeful abuse of the system we're supposed to have here -- that these people even pretend to believe in -- and is decidedly undemocratic.

I don't have the picture that someone really disagrees with me.

To be honest I was reading a piece somewhere that there are some red states that are gerrymandered to the point that you can start talking about state capture. In other words with fair rules you would have a brave new world out there (and this story is in one of those states). Republicans have 8 out of 9 house seats there, what is pretty far from what should be by popular vote. Since democrats evidently didn't get 12% of the vote there (they seems to get around 35% these days). What suggests that 2 or 25% of seats in the state were "stolen". Because democrats should get 3 out of 9 with that percentage. This is a red state but it isn't red as some would like it to be.



270 to win - Tennessee

 

[Virtual ghost]

A Texas Judge's Decision Could Reduce Abortion Access … Again


I just don't get it. They are loosing totally winnable races all over the country over this and yet they keep pushing this as something that will fix everything. While in the end this will only make country more blue. What is because women and educated people will vote against this on just about every turn.

 

[The Cat]

A Texas Judge's Decision Could Reduce Abortion Access … Again


I just don't get it. They are loosing totally winnable races all over the country over this and yet they keep pushing this as something that will fix everything. While in the end this will only make country more blue. What is because women and educated people will vote against this on just about every turn.

Theyre trapped in their own echo chamber. This could change everything. They're going to overplay a bad hand. If this were a Greek tragedy I believe the term would be hubris. The Fault I fear is not in our stars but in us...will likely come too late and unheeded. How many people suffer and die in the interim is yet to be determined, but things are coming to a crossroads.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Theyre trapped in their own echo chamber. This could change everything. They're going to overplay a bad hand. If this were a Greek tragedy I believe the term would be hubris. The Fault I fear is not in our stars but in us...will likely come too late and unheeded. How many people suffer and die in the interim is yet to be determined, but things are coming to a crossroads.

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Exactly, the country is already getting more blue due to generational change. Therefore by insisting on this bad hand you are only speeding it up. After all there is surely a point when even all of your tricks and gerrymandering can't save you. After all what is the point of pushing all of this to the point that you make country quite visibly blue. In other words that should quickly undo your push and force you into uphill battles. In the last presidential elections that were before current anti-abortion push Texas was only 5 points to the right, Florida was 3 and North Carolina 1. What is all well within the striking distance in the new landscape and they can't afford to lose any of these states. Especially since that means that they probably lost most of the rust belt, or places like Georgia or Arizona.


If you watch bigger picture this just doesn't make much sense in the terms of self preservation. While it isn't that there are much better topics that would give them gains if they invest more in those. But ok, it is their choice.

 

[The Cat]

As a granter of wishes, I do love a good monkey's paw.​

 

[Virtual ghost]

World’s cartoonists on this week’s events

 

[Totenkindly]

I think it's coming down to whether their lately speeding pace will destroy the country before it backfires on them and results in a reversal as the moderates and independent reach their breaking point in time to salvage things.

Personally I'm not sure of the verdict yet. People are really complacent + with all of their daily problems/concerns do not react to things until it rocks them personally and FORCES them to decide on the personal level what is more important to deal with.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Regarding the above post: True, but that for the most part actually depends on the Democrats. Which should try to be as reasonable as possible, provide clear and sane plans for the future, nominate decent and competent people as much as possible, make sure that in areas under their control life is visibly better ... etc. Since that is what should cause the Republicans to fade away before it is too late. Or alternatively that should wake them up to certain realities (and one of them is how much abortions issues are important to women to control their life path). But I agree that since USA has so loose social structure that people usually act when it is already too late. What is perhaps key problem from the start.