Random political thought thread.

[The Cat]

another note - I really dislike the argument that speaking against her is "anti-catholic" sentiment when Joe Biden, Pelosi, and AOC are all people who have mentioned their catholicism. Whether I like them or not is not the point - I don't think these people have an "anti-catholic" bias. In my mind, I see it as an anti-cult bias. She was part of a strange group. Charismatics are a...different kind of Christian to say the least. One I do not readily agree with myself.

what about begrudgingly?

 

[anticlimatic]

Waiting for this election feels like waiting for test results from a concerned doctor.

 

[Jaguar]

I enjoyed the speech Amy, but watching the female version of Hannibal Lecter on the right side of the screen was unsettling.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Red Memories]

Bipartisan Christian group forms super PAC to oppose Trump

 

[Jaguar]

Day 3 of watching a petulant child unwilling to answer questions. I've watched many hearings over the decades and this one could easily be called insulting to the American people and, frankly, plain stupid. How many more days of this colossal waste of time do we have left?

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Duurrrr hirrr eat red meat. Hurrrr I’m saving young men derp derp hurrrr suscribe to my hawt daughters youtube hurr durrr duurrrrrr

 

[Tellenbach]

What else is in Hunter Biden's laptop besides the emails to foreign agents and that picture of him with a crack pipe in his mouth, lol? Hey Hunter, you're a freakin' millionaire and your dad's running for President. Now is not the time to cheap-out and let some repair shop tinker with it. Get a new notebook; you can afford it.

 

[Jaguar]

Why are they running ads for Barrett in my state? Seriously, get off my TV.

 

[Red Memories]

Honestly I hate calling suggesting more judges "court packing" but also why is Biden taking all this time to say what he thinks?

 

[Jaguar]

For all the deaf people in the USA.

Biden: "I'm not a fan."

 

[Coriolis]

Honestly I hate calling suggesting more judges "court packing" but also why is Biden taking all this time to say what he thinks?

It is no more "court packing" than what the Republicans are trying to do now.

 

[Jaguar]

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[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

"New Atheism" was more about people being afraid of terrorists (and to a lesser extent, fundamentalist evangelicals) than rational thinking. It was nothing more than the way a lot of liberals processed 9/11. That explains how they could admire someone like Christopher Hitchens so much. It'd also explain why so many of them became Trump supporters.

If you talked about things like epistemology, ontology, or ethics with them, often the eyes would just glaze over.

I sometimes give people too much credit.

Also, I'm not complaining about atheism. I'm complaining about an annoying evangelistic form of atheism that was popular (especially on internet spaces) for parts of the last two decades. I think it officially died in 2015. I suppose it was a combination of Trump and that Charlie Hebdo thing.

I can see how in that climate, at that time, Trump might look attractive to some people (if not me) since he's not "churchy" like W (even though evangelicals love him anyway, but again, I just don't understand right wing values).

If you haven't thought about your value system or philosophical outlook on any deeper level than whether or not you believe in the Bible, the foundation of your value system and philosophical outlook is probably not particularly strong, and you can easily be swayed by charismatic leaders who make you feel good. Also, it was annoying that our political climate was such that you had to pick either "kick out all the refugees from the dumbass war we started" or "hmmm.... maybe criticizing religion shouldn't be allowed if it upsets people enough to want to kill", so that might probably made people feel alienated and perhaps want to realign.

 

[Red Memories]

"New Atheism" was more about people being afraid of terrorists (and to a lesser extent, fundamentalist evangelicals) than rational thinking. It was nothing more than the way a lot of liberals processed 9/11. That explains how they could admire someone like Christopher Hitchens so much. It'd also explain why so many of them became Trump supporters.

If you talked about things like epistemology, ontology, or ethics with them, often the eyes would just glaze over.

I sometimes give people too much credit.

Also, I'm not complaining about atheism. I'm complaining about an annoying evangelistic form of atheism that was popular (especially on internet spaces) for parts of the last two decades. I think it officially died in 2015. I suppose it was a combination of Trump and that Charlie Hebdo thing.

I can see how in that climate, at that time, Trump might look attractive to some people (if not me) since he's not "churchy" like W (even though evangelicals love him anyway, but again, I just don't understand right wing values).

If you haven't thought about your value system or philosophical outlook on any deeper level than whether or not you believe in the Bible, the foundation of your value system and philosophical outlook is probably not particularly strong, and you can easily be swayed by charismatic leaders who make you feel good. Also, it was annoying that our political climate was such that you had to pick either "kick out all the refugees from the dumbass war we started" or "hmmm.... maybe criticizing religion shouldn't be allowed if it upsets people enough to want to kill", so that might probably made people feel alienated and perhaps want to realign.

I do agree that form of "atheism" has somewhat died, although I feel like many of those people would be more "anti-theistic" rather than true atheists who actually do not care.

I remember most of them disliking me when I questioned why they care if I am religious, if there is no god to care about anyway? Why was my faith threatening? because I'd be mindin my own damn business online mention God somewhere to a friend and they'd pop in ThE FlYiNg SpAgHeTtI MoNsTeR, you're ass backwards, *insert many other derogatory shit names here*. And most of them don't even know what a religious book says, they just bitch about people who sadly warp the words.

but I don't consider them to be real atheists.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I do agree that form of "atheism" has somewhat died, although I feel like many of those people would be more "anti-theistic" rather than true atheists who actually do not care.

I remember most of them disliking me when I questioned why they care if I am religious, if there is no god to care about anyway? Why was my faith threatening? because I'd be mindin my own damn business online mention God somewhere to a friend and they'd pop in ThE FlYiNg SpAgHeTtI MoNsTeR, you're ass backwards, *insert many other derogatory shit names here*. And most of them don't even know what a religious book says, they just bitch about people who sadly warp the words.

but I don't consider them to be real atheists.

I think it makes the most sense as a way for certain kinds of liberals to deal with 9/11 without having to move out of their comfort zone too much. I suppose it was an easy way to show that you don't like Republicans (of course, what's the point of that if you're just going to back them up on their shitty decisions anyway) and also reassure everyone that you still think 9/11 was bad.

They would probably argue with me on this if it was still a thing that existed, but it was more a way of putting people in boxes than being about rationalism.

 

[Red Memories]

I think it makes the most sense as a way for certain kinds of liberals to deal with 9/11 without having to move out of their comfort zone too much. I suppose it was an easy way to show that you don't like Republicans (of course, what's the point of that if you're just going to back them up on their shitty decisions anyway) and also reassure everyone that you still think 9/11 was bad.

It is actually really sad because most islamics aren't even like what happened here...if you see the data, many of the peaceful islams suffer under these sort of regimes too, not just Christians or regulars. They are tossed around as evils when in reality a good hunk of religious people mind their own business too...

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

It is actually really sad because most islamics aren't even like what happened here...if you see the data, many of the peaceful islams suffer under these sort of regimes too, not just Christians or regulars. They are tossed around as evils when in reality a good hunk of religious people mind their own business too...

Yeah, but it's easier to put people who you feel threatened by in a box and then pass it off as a sign of how enlightened you are.

 

[Red Memories]

Yeah, but it's easier to put people who you feel threatened by in a box and then pass it off as a sign of how enlightened you are.

One of the truest statements I've seen here...

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

But of course they’d go after Joe Bob Briggs. I’m actually surprised they didn’t try to get him sooner.

Always the same with these people, rarely do any of them create anything of their own, but rather direct their energy to destroying and devaluing others’ creations. They always seem to be so much more worried about tone and micro aggressions than they do about any meaningful or constructive criticism of others’ creations.

Saw this happen over and over again in the science fiction, superhero, and then fantasy fandoms, so I guess it makes sense to go after horror next. They will expand the pool of voices and perspectives, and they will somehow achieve this by silencing and removing any voices or perspectives deemed the unholy problematic .