[MBTI General] Questions and Answers

[wildcat]

Vladimir Ilyich believed in the idea of the great Internationale. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. A Federal composition: The USSR was not to be a state but a Union of states. Much like the European Union.

Exactly the original idea of the Founding Fathers of America. The dream was soon tested by the slave traders. It did not pass the test.

The New Mob also believes in the Internationale. The leaders are composed of a dozen nationalities, just like the old Bolsheviks. And like the old Bolsheviks, they butcher each other with relish.

Their Capitals are St. Petersburg, Minsk, Kaunas, Vilnius, Belgrad, Bucharest, Sofia.

The Capitals of their client states are Munchen, Hamburg, Paris, London, New York..

They bring in their goods into Europe not only in trucks and vans, but quite openly through railways. They know when the bribed train personnel and the bribed custom officials are working.

They have the travel connection all worked out: the goods are brought by air, by sea, by rail, by road.

What are the goods? Where are they hidden? What is the price of the articles and for the bribe and blackmail?

The trade is rapidly expanding. These people know what they are doing.
They are professionals. After all, they were taught by Felix .

 

[Xander]

What of their eastern cousins? Radically different in operation and focus but similar in effect and temperament.

 

[wildcat]

What of their eastern cousins? Radically different in operation and focus but similar in effect and temperament.

Do you mean the Triad?
They were never here.

 

[Xander]

Do you mean the Triad?
They were never here.

Handle with care. Use Tongs

What of the Yakuza?

 

[wildcat]

Handle with care. Use Tongs

What of the Yakuza?

The Yakuza is a cover operation of the Japanese security police.

It has some loose, sure.

It is not independent and it is forbidden to operate in the occident.

 

[Xander]

The Yakuza is a cover operation of the Japanese security police.

It has some loose, sure.

It is not independent and it is forbidden to operate in the occident.

I think you have that backwards ol' boy. The Yakuza are not limited by the yokes of Japanese culture so much. They bear no rider.

 

[wildcat]

The Brief Background History of the New Mob


Suslov was officially the chief ideologist in the USSR.
He had a close connection with the Cheka/KGB.
The institution was ruled by the Party Boss Nikita Sergeyevich personally under one of his close associates.

Andropov of the Cheka, who had entertained a dream to come to the top of the organization, felt slighted by Nikita.

Andropov and Suslov schemed a coup. Nikita Sergeyevich was placed under a house arrest.

It was the business of the Cheka to know everything.
The financial deals of Brezhnev came in handy. He was vulnerable.

Under blackmail and under bribe, Brezhnev became officially the topman of the Party.

Suslov and Andropov had a free wing.

Instead of repressing the mob they began to cooperate with it.

 

[wildcat]

I think you have that backwards ol' boy. The Yakuza are not limited by the yokes of Japanese culture so much. They bear no rider.

If that is true why they are not here?

The disinformation tactics goes two ways.

 

[Xander]

To go east to west some would have to cross areas with no profit and therefore no insentive. Hence they travelled east and started that way.

The Russians had plenty of corruption off of which to feed. They also had rich neighbours to pester. Japan did not (well not counting Hong Kong but I think that it was a little crowded).

 

[wildcat]

To go east to west some would have to cross areas with no profit and therefore no insentive. Hence they travelled east and started that way.

The Russians had plenty of corruption off of which to feed. They also had rich neighbours to pester. Japan did not (well not counting Hong Kong but I think that it was a little crowded).

Oh yes they have the incentive.

The Japanese have extensive deals with us.
During my brief entourage in the business world I came to know them.
Even learned a little bit of the vernacular.

Yakuza eh?

Read Amelie Nothomb.

In Japan you do not so much as sneeze without a goahead.

 

[Xander]

Oh yes they have the incentive.

The Japanese have extensive deals with us.
During my brief entourage in the business world I came to know them.
Even learned a little bit of the vernacular.

Yakuza eh?

Read Amelie Nothomb.

In Japan you do not so much as sneeze without a goahead.

I believe that Britain and Japan are not so dissimilar. However we are not talking about the law abiding citizens. We are talking of the couter culture, the rule breakers. These people would sneeze when specifically told not to unless their boss said not to (the specific name of whom I cannot recall at this point in time).

 

[wildcat]

I have never known two cultures so dissimilar as Britain and Japan.

In both counties you have to recognize the code, sure.
In Japan you have to follow it.

Test the tolerance. Stretch the limit.
It is in the twilight zone. In Merry Old.

Japan is another island. Go to work in a Japanese company you see.
Eat the humble apple pie.

Do you want a recommendation?

 

[Xander]

I have never known two cultures so dissimilar as Britain and Japan.

In both counties you have to recognize the code, sure.
In Japan you have to follow it.

Test the tolerance. Stretch the limit.
It is in the twilight zone. In Merry Old.

Japan is another island. Go to work in a Japanese company you see.
Eat the humble apple pie.

Do you want a recommendation?

The specifics of the cultures are vastly different but the underlying philosophies seem very similar to me. I'm looking only at the patterns, the dots mean little to me.

 

[wildcat]

The specifics of the cultures are vastly different but the underlying philosophies seem very similar to me. I'm looking only at the patterns, the dots mean little to me.

And thereby I envy you. The dots drive me beserk.

Hey! We have to find an appellation for the New Mob.

Make history and find a name. Come on!

 

[Xander]

I thought the Russian Mafia had their own title?

Not that the Italian Mafia ever did nor the American branch.

Oh and the Yakuza boss... Oyabun. See I remembered eventually

 

[Xander]

Russian Mob or Mafia
Russkaya Mafiya
Red Mafia
Krasnaya Mafiya
Bratva (brotherhood)

Russian Mafia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Man that thing has EVERYTHING!!

 

[wildcat]

Russian Mob or Mafia
Russkaya Mafiya
Red Mafia
Krasnaya Mafiya
Bratva (brotherhood)

Russian Mafia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Man that thing has EVERYTHING!!

Bratva is good. Unfortunately, only for the rare species who know Russian.

No Xander. It does not have everything.

A good show, old boy. However, we need a word palatable for the English.
We represent the Lingua Franca.

 

[Xander]

Yakuza is Japanese, Tong & Triad is Chinese (as far as I am aware anyhow), Mafioso is Sicilian... Why not a Russian word for the Russian mob? Least they'd know when you were shouting at them

 

[wildcat]

Yakuza is Japanese, Tong & Triad is Chinese (as far as I am aware anyhow), Mafioso is Sicilian... Why not a Russian word for the Russian mob? Least they'd know when you were shouting at them

Japanese, Chinese and Nipponese are palatable languages in the ears of the English.
Russian is hogwash.

I love Russian. And the Russians. The people and the language are great.
Alas alone for those in the know.

In spoken Russian the consonants are vocalized, mellowed. It is a musical and a beautiful speech.

Unfortunately their alphabet was originally coined after the Greek Koine.
Ill suited in Russian. Ogham would have served them better.

Nicky was not a Russian. Lennie was not a Russian. Koba and Felix and Beria were not Russians. Was Abramov a Russian?
A Russian died in a Polonium poisoning in London?
Come on.

Did I say a Russian mob?

Careless of me.

 

[Xander]

I intuited that you were on about the Russian Mafia from your original post. Why did I err?