Well, you have made a lot of intps answer to your thread; this is normally counter-indicative for being an entp and only works if you start a thread with "All INTPs have a small p-ness"
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You and I both know dats da truth!
I personally always felt that this kind of trouble or challenge to the status quo is imperative for new insights on a matter and therefore for the creation of new ideas.
Agree with you there.
So if you have a strong opinion as an entp, but always try to keep everything fluffy with everyone ( as long as they dont step outa line ), it can ( but must not ) create the double-face for you.
That would be part of it, astute one. But I don't feel as though I have a double-face, it's more that I feel needy and fake at times, because I care too much about making other people happy, even at my own expense at times.
Nah I think you're way off. In fact, it's the lack of being calculating that makes it hard for me to see Trin as ENTP. They seem to have a natural cynicism that I just don't get from her. At all. Of course, she could just be REALLY good at hiding it.
And she's never competitive. She almost comes off as a tough-minded ENFP, like ergo, or Cze-Cze.
You know I've never bought your ENTPness, Trin, and that's not just because I think you're awesome.
I'm competitive with myself, not so much with others, part of that could be that I don't wish to get competitive about something that I can't win or at least have a good challenge attempting to. In areas that involve natural talent like art and such I don't stand a chance, in other areas involving tactic or logic I rarely find a challenge irl from someone interested in competition. My mother would say I was competitive as a child but I guess I often don't feel like there's a point to it now.
In terms of cynicism there's an uncomfortable mix, I don't enjoy being cynical, I get more satisfaction out of being optimistic, but I can generally see the cynical side and at times it can take conscious effort to let go of that point of view. I went through a stage end of last year where I was quite angry and cynical at life and while I felt vindicated in my point of view it made me miserable to see things that way.
It's a tough call indeed, I am tho personally convinced there's a lot more to trinity we havent seen on this forum and probably never gonna be. And that shady side hidden in unvoiced mysteries, which makes it intresting to get her to know, feels entp to me.
If you haven't seen it then I don't understand it or aren't completely comfortable with it yet. With time most things tend to come out.
It is when one does not give in to such temptations, when one maintains one's integrity in spite of the high degree of anonymity, that it is suddenly difficult for forumites to determine type by behavior/style. "Oh crap ... it's a nice normal person ... I can't tell what type they are ..."
I don't see the traits I mentioned as not relating too as negative things, I don't appreciate walking all over others with total disregard for their feelings but being smart, witty and two steps ahead in a debate where you can go for the jugular isn't something I see as bad, it can be quite admirable from my pov. Just want to make it clear that the things I don't relate to are not negative things, and I don't consider myself evolved or anything like that because I don't relate. Quite the opposite.
INTPs are the opposite, dry and crusty on the surface, but dig a little deeper and they really open up, you can sink your roots in forever.
INTPs have the ultimate squishy centre
This is just my impression, you understand, and it is probably based on having a profound mistrust of Fe, especially ENTP Fe, which always comes across to me as phoney. I see through it instantly. I'm very sensitive to that vibe and I never get it from Trin.
I do feel fake because of it at times, it's a horrible feeling. It's something that's accentuated when interacting with a Fi user who can just cut through that crap.
There is a neediness about ENTPs too. They need to have their egos stroked constantly. They need to feel special and be the centre of attention. They have a tendency to be narcissistic (all EXXPs do). That's just not Trin. (Of course they have wonderful qualities too, I'm just focusing on the negative stuff.)
I'm pretty uncomfortable with that. I'm sure they'd be some good psycho analysis as to why
In all honesty, when I was new here I thought you were more INFP'ish than ENTP'ish. Vibe-wise.
That's actually how I feel. Don't get me wrong, I don't question my ENTPnesss, and I know I'm not an INFP, especially irl I don't relate to them but online I appreciate their vibe, it can feel familiar.
Then I realized, you're just another ENTP but due to blue you apply your sense of responsibility where normal member ENTP's wouldn't, and it comes off as INFP'ish sometimes.
Blue screwed you up royally.
Blue screwed me up :steam: WHY?!?!?!
This is going to be an ineffective post:
I'm with you Trin, I'm with you.
Whatever that means, thank you, from the bottom of the soulless pit that used to hold my heart!
I've not been hanging around here that much recently, and I tend to not post that much even when I am here (but I tend to come back near major life changes, when I'm trying to figure out who I really am), but when I've read your posts I've identified with them a fair bit.
Wicked!
When I started here I thought I was an INTP. I eventually realized that I was simply a shy E, which accounts for a lot of screwiness and explains why I need people so much. I value others, I need them, so I know that I need to treat them decently. When I took the function test a few years ago I was mostly Ne and Ti, with some Fi. Now, I have rather strong Fe and Se, although Ne and Ti remain strongest. I don't like to attack people (unless I think they deserve it
). My stronger Fe has made me a lot better at not pissing people off. I love bantering with people, but not in a harmful way. I can verbally tear someone to shreds, but I rarely want to. I did debate team for all of high school. I love tossing around ideas. It was a good outlet for my argumentative tendencies, but it didn't allow personal attacks, which casual arguments so often degenerate into. I prefer that, keeping the argument to the topic, not letting it fall into pedantry or barbs about character.
Can totally relate to that!
Ne + Ti can leave people going for the throat a lot, often without realizing the effect that can have. You have Fe, which tempers it a bit. Being able to empathize with others makes you want to be gentler, I think. Three years ago, I thought Fe seemed rather manipulative and dishonorable. Now, I understand the use a lot better. I can also make and keep friends much more easily. Sure, it has it's nasty aspects, like any function. But an ENTP with Fe can do awesome things, in part because they don't offend everyone all the time.
If you don't mind me asking, what age group are you in? It's not relevant, I'm just curious.