I can go in both directions. I can see so much intricate complexity that it makes it difficult to encapsulate it with any brevity, and at other times I'm brilliant at cutting through the mess and getting to the essence of things.I also have a question for both Ne and Ni people. Are you better at expanding on things, or summing things up?
It might not be related to Ne vs Ni, though. I'm definitely better at summing things up or summarizing things than I am at expanding on things, while I know a couple of ENFPs who are better at expanding on things and have trouble editing things down.
To me, it seeeeems like Ne is more easily articulate than Ni, but I've also seen some very articulate Ni explanations. It may just be that I understand Ne better (and therefore it seems more articulate to me) because it's my own thought process.
And as was mentioned in the Ne vs Ni thread a few months ago, Ne seems more likely to sum things up, while Ni seems more likely to write walls of text.
I also have a question for both Ne and Ni people. Are you better at expanding on things, or summing things up?
It might not be related to Ne vs Ni, though. I'm definitely better at summing things up or summarizing things than I am at expanding on things, while I know a couple of ENFPs who are better at expanding on things and have trouble editing things down.
I can go in both directions. I can see so much intricate complexity that it makes it difficult to encapsulate it with any brevity, and at other times I'm brilliant at cutting through the mess and getting to the essence of things.
But I would think Ni would be better at summarising, seeing as it's about convergence.
[MENTION=5489]shortnsweet[/MENTION] could you provide some more specific questions. I'm overwhelmed by the possibilities of such a broad topic
But I would think Ni would be better at summarising, seeing as it's about convergence.
Well I notice that Ne users tend to be quick thinkers who can respond to points on the fly; wheras as a Ni-user I'm more of a "slowcoach" who needs to ponders things through for a while. I noticed that Ne can seem rather hyrda-like in debate; if I respond to one point, all of a sudden I have to answer five more; and if I answer those five points, I now have ten more to respond to - and so on. Wheras as a Ni-user, I usually like bringing things together in one large whole, not breaking them down or apart so to speak("divergence vs convergence as somebody here touched upon I think).I'd be interested to learn about how Ni people experience Ne communication.
Well I notice that Ne users tend to be quick thinkers who can respond to points on the fly; wheras as a Ni-user I'm more of a "slowcoach" who needs to ponders things through for a while. I noticed that Ne can seem rather hyrda-like in debate; if I respond to one point, all of a sudden I have to answer five more; and if I answer those five points, I now have ten more to respond to - and so on. Wheras as a Ni-user, I usually like bringing things together in one large whole, not breaking them down or apart so to speak("divergence vs convergence as somebody here touched upon I think).
I find it best to focus on one major theme at a time, wheras Ne-user seem to have little difficulty bouncing around from topic to topic. Some people have claimed that while Ne is about breadth, Ni is about depth. I could see how could argue that, since I'm often interested in expanding(to use your term) or exploring more in-depth, wheras Ne-users seem to struggle with this.
I hope this helps give you an idea, hopefully other Ni-doms can offer their observations.
Well I notice that Ne users tend to be quick thinkers who can respond to points on the fly; wheras as a Ni-user I'm more of a "slowcoach" who needs to ponders things through for a while. I noticed that Ne can seem rather hyrda-like in debate; if I respond to one point, all of a sudden I have to answer five more; and if I answer those five points, I now have ten more to respond to - and so on. Wheras as a Ni-user, I usually like bringing things together in one large whole, not breaking them down or apart so to speak("divergence vs convergence as somebody here touched upon I think).
I find it best to focus on one major theme at a time, wheras Ne-user seem to have little difficulty bouncing around from topic to topic. Some people have claimed that while Ne is about breadth, Ni is about depth. I could see how could argue that, since I'm often interested in expanding(to use your term) or exploring more in-depth, wheras Ne-users seem to struggle with this.
I hope this helps give you an idea, hopefully other Ni-doms can offer their observations.
So aptly put, and my experience too. I really admire Ne in action; that quick humor that bounces all over the place, as on le forum.
I feel sooo slow in comparison. What is Ni good for anyway?
So aptly put, and my experience too. I really admire Ne in action; that quick humor that bounces all over the place, as on le forum.
I feel sooo slow in comparison. What is Ni good for anyway?
Well I notice that Ne users tend to be quick thinkers who can respond to points on the fly; wheras as a Ni-user I'm more of a "slowcoach" who needs to ponders things through for a while. I noticed that Ne can seem rather hyrda-like in debate; if I respond to one point, all of a sudden I have to answer five more; and if I answer those five points, I now have ten more to respond to - and so on. Wheras as a Ni-user, I usually like bringing things together in one large whole, not breaking them down or apart so to speak("divergence vs convergence as somebody here touched upon I think).
I find it best to focus on one major theme at a time, wheras Ne-user seem to have little difficulty bouncing around from topic to topic. Some people have claimed that while Ne is about breadth, Ni is about depth. I could see how could argue that, since I'm often interested in expanding(to use your term) or exploring more in-depth, wheras Ne-users seem to struggle with this.
I hope this helps give you an idea, hopefully other Ni-doms can offer their observations.
Yeah I have to admit I feel the same way at times too. I just can't keep up with Ne, which can lead to a certain sense of annoyance at it(hence my "I hate Ne" rants, which is my form of sarcasm) - more about this below.So aptly put, and my experience too. I really admire Ne in action; that quick humor that bounces all over the place, as on le forum.
I feel sooo slow in comparison. What is Ni good for anyway?
Yes I've heard Ne-users say similar things to me, one even saying they outright aspired to be more like me. But like AphroditeGoneAwry, I scratch my head wondering what's so special about Ni really, you think deeply about stuff nobody cares about and hardly anybody can understand you. Also you come across as just too darn serious(I do at least).I never would have thought of it this way. Ni seems like they just know everything to me. They can't just make things up, they know it, and they know the next right thing- they are all knowing. So they can progress more accurately, where as, I always figure, what's Ne good for? It doesn't always seem to have the right answer at all- it just has many possible questions with many possible answers.
Interesting - kinda parallels the hiddern unity of Ni.The description above is quite apt, but I suspect it seems like we are hoppinf from topic to topic, as Ni doms cannot see our underlying Si framework in our minds-the thoughts are connected like a web, but much of the web is hidden away.
Peguy-once you said the funniest thing about enfps...something about being serious, then saying wierd crazy things....I always recall that and giggle.
YES!!
LOL, that is exactly what it feels like too!! It's almost like my serious self is sharing my brain with a total crazy person. But it thinks it is all rather funny.