Kingu Kurimuzon
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- MBTI Type
- I
- Enneagram
- 9w8
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/sx
ISFJ boys love to crawl around on their hands and knees and serve as human chairs for their ENTJ girlfriends.
She, as in one. Just because she can spot a lie a mile away does not mean INFJs can spot a lie a mile away.
As an ENFP, I generally try to avoid situations in which someone creates an interaction that reveals who is going to be submissive. I do, however, know several Fi users (especially ENFP and INFP, myself included) that will be submissive in most matters unless it comes in conflict with something that matters to them. The conflict just isn't worth it otherwise. I know there's a whole discussion a few pages back about how being agreeable isn't the same thing as being submissive. To me, being agreeable is how I am submissive. I feel like a heel if I go through all the bother of proving I'm right about something that isn't going to matter in 24 hours.
ISFJ boys love to crawl around on their hands and knees and serve as human chairs for their ENTJ girlfriends.
Shit. When did you install all these cameras in my house? I didn't think anyone was going to see that.![]()
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Well according to a few sources online, this is the INFJ's natural ability to see through the B.S.
Hoo boy. Sorry, didn't mean to misrepresent Fi. I see from your post that I was wrong on the definition of submission.
Please, educate me (and I'm not saying that to be snarky--I'm genuinely curious, and I am still learning about cognitive functions.) Why would an Fe user like ISFJs be submissive, then? What is the difference between values held by Fi and values held by Fe that would allow Fe users to be submissive where Fi users normally wouldn't be?
EDIT: On second thought... Yeah, your post does makes sense. Under that definition, I would agree that Fi users can't be submissive.
You say submissive not "passive" so that's what I will answer. Submission isn't based on anything relating to MBTI or cognitive function. Being generic in my response we all submit to others in the areas they know better, this is just acknowledging and yielding to their knowledge. Of course there are people stubborn beyond their own best interest and some types are more prone to this but that isn't want you're asking about.
I am a Dom and can give the perspective from that side and what I look for in a submissive. For me it mostly comes down to the motives that I look for, in a healthy Dom/sub dynamic it's an "exchange". So I look for a submissive that seeks a strong, safe, unconditional (love, acceptance, support), stable, self aware, attentive partner they can feel completely safe being totally exposed and vulnerable with and just let go. In my experience I'm far more likely to find that in the more assertive types, ENTJ, INTP, INTJ, ENTP, and so on. There are types like ISFJ, INFP that as a rule are too passive for me or wanting a partner to fill a void and take care of them which isn't a style that works for me. There are also types like the INFJ which I would never consider as a sub, they can't really lead or follow and seem to be super conflicted being either which paradoxically leaves them being neither and that doesn't work for me as there's no room for the "exchange" I need. I'm not condemning that as it seems to serve them well in many aspects of life but they aren't exactly known for their high level of saticfation in relationships and I think this is a huge part of why.
Do you feel that ESTJ personalities would be successful as subs?
Why does this thread keep coming back
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