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[Red Memories]

Who wants a crack at me

I'll take you

INTP 9w8 5w6 3w2 Sp/Sx

 

[Opal Star]

Does ESTJ make sense? I can see arguments for ENTJ and ISTJ as well. Ironically, I used to think that I was an INFJ.

 

[Earl Grey]

Hopping on the bandwagon of drive-thru typings,

is INFJ really that far-fetched for me?

 

[miss deceit]

Does ESTJ make sense? I can see arguments for ENTJ and ISTJ as well. Ironically, I used to think that I was an INFJ.

ESTJ makes sense from what I've seen of you, if that helps

 

[Opal Star]

I agree. I was silly for thinking that I am an INFJ. LOL at the notion of me being Te PoLR.

 

[Lord Lavender]

Hopping on the bandwagon of drive-thru typings,

is INFJ really that far-fetched for me?

Not as far fetched as say Fe dom or ENFP for instance but I don't think its super duper likely. I would say maybe 35% odds. I could see a Ni/Ti subtype INFJ you do have this certain fascination with people and strong insight and intuitive knowledge of how folks tick but that's more stereotypes than reality I have met INFJs who are pretty obtuse to people. You just dont seem very Fe to me not saying you have no feels (Fi is obvious) but you feel more hmmmmm detached but a steady caring aura at the same time I often see in IxTJs than the more bubbly emotionally I typically see from INFJs. But then INFJ with heavy competency or/and withdrawn influence can sort of seem INTJish. Actually bump that up to 45% odds.

In a nutshell I wouldn't be like WTF WHY DO YOU TYPE AS THAT but more a hmmmmm *Hmmmmmm its not the most likely but its very possible*.

(I have a question of my own whats the odds of ENFP vs ENPT for me) .

 

[Earl Grey]

Not as far fetched as say Fe dom or ENFP for instance but I don't think its super duper likely. I would say maybe 35% odds. I could see a Ni/Ti subtype INFJ you do have this certain fascination with people and strong insight and intuitive knowledge of how folks tick but that's more stereotypes than reality I have met INFJs who are pretty obtuse to people. You just dont seem very Fe to me not saying you have no feels (Fi is obvious) but you feel more hmmmmm detached but a steady caring aura at the same time I often see in IxTJs than the more bubbly emotionally I typically see from INFJs. But then INFJ with heavy competency or/and withdrawn influence can sort of seem INTJish. Actually bump that up to 45% odds.

In a nutshell I wouldn't be like WTF WHY DO YOU TYPE AS THAT but more a hmmmmm *Hmmmmmm its not the most likely but its very possible*.

But what would 'don't seem very Fe' even mean? What is Fe? What would be Fe, and what am I doing instead of Fe?

What is Fi, and how is it obvious?

(I knew I should've just created a new type me thread, since I'd likely ask 900 questions. If you can't or wouldn't prefer answering, feel free to ignore)

(I've been asked before about why my type me threads were relatively sparse. I have this iddy suspicion that it's my *asks 900 questions* that drives people away)

(I have a question of my own whats the odds of ENFP vs ENPT for me) .

Sure. I do still think that ENTP for you is more likely, though I couldn't quite explain why. Usually when I type people I observe them over time, but it doesn't mean that I have my observation ready to be put out in words. If you want, I'll keep this in mind and get back to you about it another time.

 

[Lord Lavender]

But what would 'don't seem very Fe' even mean? What is Fe? What would be Fe, and what am I doing instead of Fe?

What is Fi, and how is it obvious?

(I knew I should've just created a new type me thread, since I'd likely ask 900 questions. If you can't or wouldn't prefer answering, feel free to ignore)

(I've been asked before about why my type me threads were relatively sparse. I have this iddy suspicion that it's my *asks 900 questions* that drives people away)




Sure. I do still think that ENTP for you is more likely, though I couldn't quite explain why. Usually when I type people I observe them over time, but it doesn't mean that I have my observation ready to be put out in words. If you want, I'll keep this in mind and get back to you about it another time.

You don't seem to pay much attention to the outer emotional atmosphere and you don't seek to influence the emotional temp of a room unlike Fe users do. As for your Fi I see that kind of gentle understanding and you have that inner awareness that kind of unexpectly soft and caring energy that I often get from tert Fi folks. Oooooooooh another angle could be to see if you are demo Fi or demo Ti. You don't seem demo Fi to me personally I would say demo Ti works like its probably why you ask so many questions as you admitted your Fi doesn't seem showy to me but more natural like it would be if you valued it . Instead of Fe you tend to organize and approach your world with a very Te approach (You seem to catagorie things more logicaly than humanistic if that makes sense). Feel free to let me know more about how ENTP could fit me . BTW what makes you consider INFJ maybe some new info could be gained from that that could help.

 

[Earl Grey]

You don't seem to pay much attention to the outer emotional atmosphere and you don't seek to influence the emotional temp of a room unlike Fe users do. As for your Fi I see that kind of gentle understanding and you have that inner awareness that kind of unexpectly soft and caring energy that I often get from tert Fi folks. Oooooooooh another angle could be to see if you are demo Fi or demo Ti. You don't seem demo Fi to me personally I would say demo Ti works like its probably why you ask so many questions as you admitted your Fi doesn't seem showy to me but more natural like it would be if you valued it . Instead of Fe you tend to organize and approach your world with a very Te approach (You seem to catagorie things more logicaly than humanistic if that makes sense). Feel free to let me know more about how ENTP could fit me . BTW what makes you consider INFJ maybe some new info could be gained from that that could help.

It's not too serious. The reason I strongly considered and typed as INFJ in the past was due to misunderstandings and stereotypes. There were several reasons, but one of the more striking ones was that as a youth I thought I lacked some of that 'INTX arrogance' (I did not) and that I came across as more gentle and helpful than not (only partially and extremely situationally), which pushed me to F > T. Now I know that it's more complex than that. (Also, I have since found that I'm much more emotionally dense than I had first thought. I thought I could read emotional atmosphere. Nope)

Do explain what you mean by 'demo'. Is it something from socionics, and what does it entail?
You mention categorizing things more logically instead of via a humanistic approach- I assume that by that you mean I look at data more than I look at the people within a system. I'm surprised you say that, since I don't particularly recall any instances in which I demonstrated that (not that it's true or untrue, where it is from).

The details are probably good fodder for my blog, so I'll post more of my reasons there and you can take a look if you'd like. If you have a type-me blog, I will post my thoughts about your type there, though I will take some time to.

 

[Red Memories]

Hopping on the bandwagon of drive-thru typings,

is INFJ really that far-fetched for me?

No. I already think you are one.

 

[Earl Grey]

No. I already think you are one.

And I wanted to grow an ESFP cult . . .

 

[Red Memories]

And I wanted to grow an ESFP cult . . .

Now that I will not go with you are no ESFP

 

[chickpea]

not an ENFP and i don't even think ENFPs can be 1s! i'm unsure of your Fi usage but it's possible

 

[Vendrah]

[MENTION=19700]Tactical Turtleneck[/MENTION]

I'll take you

INTP 9w8 5w6 3w2 Sp/Sx

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[MENTION=35920]Earl Grey[/MENTION] - INFJ 5, or perhaps INTJ?
You seem a Ni-dom to me at least.

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[MENTION=30122]Lord Lavender[/MENTION] - Still ENFP, ENXP with borderline T/F is not unusual at all.

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not an ENFP and i don't even think ENFPs can be 1s! i'm unsure of your Fi usage but it's possible

I agree on the ENFP can't be ones part XD!
I think she is a mix of INFP & ENFJ, ENFP is in the middle but ENFP and enneagram 1 are not really compatible... Unless you buy the disintegration theory, so she is a 7 that disintegrated to 1 but forgot to put a I or J that should come from the disintegration.

[MENTION=33903]Red Memories[/MENTION]

EDIT: Reasoning on spoiler

So, here are the most common MBTI types per enneagrams:
Type 1: IXXJ : In ATER, about half of enneagram type 1 are ISFJ, ISTJ and INTJ combined. World-wide, it is quite likely that about half of this enneagram type is ISFJ or ISTJ.
Type 2: EXFJ: In ATER, about 80% of this enneagram is composed by basically ENFJ and ESFJ. World-wide, it is likely that more than half of this enneagram is composed by ESFJ type.
Type 3 and Type 8: EXTJ: In ATER, a little bit less than half of this enneagram are ENTJ and ESTJ. World-wide, about half of this enneagram is composed by ESTJ and ESTP.
Type 4: INFX: In ATER, a little bit more than a half from this type are INFP and INFJ. In countries in general, about half are INFP, ISFP or ENFP.
Type 5: IXTX: In ATER, a little bit less than a half from this type are INTJ and INTP. Word-wide, most type 5 are ISTP, INTP and ISTJ.
Type 6: ISXJ: Both in ATER and world-wide, more or less (less on ATER, more on world-wide) half of this type are ISTJ and ISFJ.
Type 7: EXXP: More than 90% both in ATER and world-wide of this type are basically Extraverted Perceivers.
Type 9: Very diverse.
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But also I had decided to use the cognitive functions to give some assistance as well (had this idea just later thats why it is not in the beginning), although in this context of use it wont be super reliable. There are two ways to do this, a hard and slightly more precise one, which would be way too long to be shown, and the shortest one that is less precise, but at least more aligned with dichotomy. I decided to take the easiest one. One website made associations between enneagram and cognitive functions, although their input comes completely from dichotomy:
https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/01/mbti-and-the-enneagram-2/18/

From this website:
- Ne and Se are associated with type 7 mostly.
- Ni is associated with type 5 (although I dont see any connection for that conceptually).
- Si is associated with type 6 and type 1.
- Te is associated with type 3 and 8.
- Ti is very strongly associated with type 5.
- Fe is very strongly associated with type 2.
- Fi is associated with type 4 and 9 (although I see few connections for that conceptually).

So, using IXXJ types as Ne-tard and Se-tard, ESXP types as Ni-tard, ENXP types as Si-tard, IXFP as Te-tard, EXFJ as Ti-tard, IXTP as Fe-tard and EXTJ as Fi-tard, and merging that with enneagram associations, we have as impossible types and enneagrams combinations:
- Type 1 (Si): ENFP and ENTP.
- Type 2 (Fe): INTP and ISTP.
- Type 3 (Te): INFP and ISFP.
- Type 4 (Fi): ESTJ and ENTJ.
- Type 5 (Ti and Ni): ESFJ, ENFJ, ESTP and ESFP.
- Type 6 (Si): ENFP and ENTP.
- Type 7 (Se and Ne): ISTJ, ISFJ, INTJ, INFJ.
- Type 8 (Te): INFP and ISFP.
- Type 9 (Fi): ENTJ and ESTJ.

So, basically a Type 1 should not be a Si-tard, that is why ENTP/ENFP 1 is an impossible combo, it is because of the functions.

 

[Coriolis]

(I have a question of my own whats the odds of ENFP vs ENPT for me) .

I have seen you as ENTP ever since you came to the forum. My original reasoning involved the way you presented your case in serious threads (more seeking of logical consistency), and the way you would joke and banter in the lighthearted threads (very divergent, Ne-style humor but with an edge to it that ENFP usually lacks). Your presentation in the past year or so has come across as much softer and more tentative, but I have the impression that that is more in response to RL perturbations rather than something innate. Your approach to problems and questions lacks the external, fact-focus of Te, which suggests the T you use is Ti. Your interaction style has always reflected an awareness of group dynamics more indicative of Fe over Fi. This distinction is muddied by the more introspective turn your presentation (and perhaps your actual thoughts/life) has taken, but not enough to make me willing to switch them. So, if you use Ti and Fe and Ne, _NTP is the only choice, and I don't think you are I.

 

[chickpea]

wait i thought this was the type the member above you thread, my bad lol

 

[Merced]

All Enneagram/MBTI combinations are possible and I will die on that hill.

 

[Earl Grey]

I have seen you as ENTP ever since you came to the forum. My original reasoning involved the way you presented your case in serious threads (more seeking of logical consistency), and the way you would joke and banter in the lighthearted threads (very divergent, Ne-style humor but with an edge to it that ENFP usually lacks). Your presentation in the past year or so has come across as much softer and more tentative, but I have the impression that that is more in response to RL perturbations rather than something innate. Your approach to problems and questions lacks the external, fact-focus of Te, which suggests the T you use is Ti. Your interaction style has always reflected an awareness of group dynamics more indicative of Fe over Fi. This distinction is muddied by the more introspective turn your presentation (and perhaps your actual thoughts/life) has taken, but not enough to make me willing to switch them. So, if you use Ti and Fe and Ne, _NTP is the only choice, and I don't think you are I.

@Lord Lavender basically my reasoning as well, including your recent presentation. The wanting to maintain logical consistency and gather up data like candy (OH I READ THIS (Ne)! NOW I KNOW THIS (Ti)! NOW I SHARE THIS FOR OTHERS, THEY'LL LIKE IT! (Fe), the fact that you gather things that personally makes sense to you, and you present it to others in a Fe-ish way. It's like you're using Fe to present Ne+Ti.

You seem to 'mentally tinkertoy' a lot and enjoy the data for data's sake instead of drawing moralistic conclusions on things (compare to Jazzy, for example), or stating what to do with the data- very akin to Maou, who is also -TP type. The huge impression I get with Ti-types is "HERE'S ALL THE DATA!" "Okay, what do we do about it?" "I don't know I haven't thought of it but HEY LOOK HERE'S MORE DATA,"- they have answers (with varying degrees of making sense and relevancy), but lack conclusions.

Your recent presentation also has a lot to do with propriety and relating to others and how you communicate with others- which is generally a Fe concern and where Fe focuses on to do its work- more than it is an internal dissonance and having a value system come crashing down on you that a Fi-crisis seems to be prone to being. Fe seems to not want to ask "Who am I to myself?" and ask instead, "Who am I to others?" it is like they perceive 'who' they are via a mirror- via how they are present and interact with others, and then derive their self-identity and self-understanding from there rather than being biased to their internal emotional state to gauge who they are and their intentions. Keep in mind that since I am considering ENTP as a type for you, this wouldn't be the main way you interact with the world, but I see it as a prominent feature you express and experience regardless.

 

[Schrödinger's Name]

What excludes an ENFP from being an E1? Not to mention that the MBTI and the Enneagram are completely different systems. They are Fi users and Fi users are rather known for having their own inner world and (strong) values as E1's do (relating to the values).

What I find rather interesting (even despite I am combining MBTI and the Enneagram by doing this) are SO-doms with Fi in their stacking (or at least that's what they claim to be). This for some reason does not make sense to me at all.

 

[Saturnal Snowqueen]

Yeah, personally I don't see ENFP and 1 as weird at all. Fi and Te in the middle, even with Ne at the front, tends to be really staunch about what they believe in. Sx 1 would be the countertype too, and they're the type to be less concerned about having a tidy desk like a SP 1 and more the type to be fierce idealists who crusade after what they believe in. I think this fits ENFP well; they're stereotyped as manic pixie dream girls and some are but if you want to think about it from a socionics perspective, they're deltas which makes them more rigid and perfectionistic than they seem at first glance.