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[Lord Lavender]

Totally understandable, there IS a lot of back and forth. Look back to my question regarding which type you admire, not which one you identify with, but which one you know you aren't, but like. Almost like IF could morph into that type for whatever reason, which type would you morph into? Following that question is the why? What about that type do you like?

If i could morph into any type it would be ExTJ as i envy Te for getting shit done yet admire them as they are generally well respected for males as well. I quite like ESFJ as well as ExxJ appeals to me in general as they are the mover shaker types so to speak plus next to dom Te dom Fe is second best as Fe can be quite a fun function and ENTP as well as i like to the the stereotypical charming nerdy guy (Ne-Fe combo is just a pairing i love to use). I do not identify with ExTJ but what i like about them is that they are well respected, seen as powerful and strong and very masculine types for men. I also like ESTP as they are like the cooler and less awkward version of ENTPs. I have known ESTPs in school and they are well respected. (Sorry if ive rambled a little). In general Fe is something I love to use for fun while I envy detail oreanted and structured people who can keep their shit together. To me it doesn't matter if your forest has a few crooked trees as long as the overall big picture is good.

 

[Starry]

I think it's kind of strange that a lot of other people don't think people in general of all things should be questioned and thought about critically but I also think it explains a lot of the world to me at this point. Man as the majority must really be something likened to humble underneath it all to think himself unworthy of investigation or complexity. But perhaps that last bit is too presumptuous.

^^This passage really moves me and I've been sitting here for the longest time searching for the right words to express what I want to say in response. I guess I'll just say that...I see you especially being subject to the SFJ stereotypes with members constantly wanting to retype you...as what? Some Fi type...because of those edgy avatars right...

And yet it doesn't get more Fe than what is written above. This is the Fe...idk...to me it is an extending of humanity to others rather than handling them with suspicion and paranoia ...right here. Thank you so much for this.

 

[Hawthorne]

This is my favorite thread on the whole entire site.

 

[Starry]

If anything, I'd expect a percentage of N type members greater than the percentage on overall society.

Oh absolutely. We are dealing with theory here after all. And of course sensors can and do appreciate theory, in my experience, they just put less importance in it and therefore spend less time in it. On this site, I don't expect the general population statistics of type to be represented here as well.

While I agree that this site may in fact be more attractive to Ns...I would attribute it to the same reason this site appears to attract a higher than what-is-found-in-the-normal-population number of sx doms...namely...internal conflict. In other words, I reject the notion that Ss place a lesser value on theory as a whole (and I'm glad I caught your post ED because I almost posted this same sentiment with only Anaximander's quote which would have looked like I was talking over you so phew). This has just been my personal observation.

 

[Dreamer]

While I agree that this site may in fact be more attractive to Ns...I would attribute it to the same reason this site appears to attract a higher than what-is-found-in-the-normal-population number of sx doms...namely...internal conflict. In other words, I reject the notion that Ss place a lesser value on theory as a whole (and I'm glad I caught your post ED because I almost posted this same sentiment with only Anaximander's quote which would have looked like I was talking over you so phew). This has just been my personal observation.

Hmm, I wonder what other trends we can find in dissecting the population here. Not to post something totally off the intention of this thread, perhaps we can start another, but I'd be curious to explore the population here, see why certain types are attracted to this site, and what, about this site attracts that type of individual. Never thought about this site attracting Sx doms. Interesting!

*edit: forgot to mention Starry, I don't tend to look all that deep into people's actions on this site so if you accidentally overlook a post of mine for example, I really won't think anything of it, same goes for likes (I feel some members may give likes WAY too much thought ) I give people the benefit of the doubt by default. At times, too much so! Long story short, you're good

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

But we all know that it's true that a lot of sensors are really often mistyped as intuitives. We often talk about the N bias and how online descriptions are bad.
Months ago I had found a graph showing the percentage of profiles given by an online test. I clearly remember INTP, INFP and INTJ on the top list and SJ on the bottom.
I'm falling asleep, but I'll look if I can find it again.

And that's the tricky thing about personality testing. Are those tests attracting more genuine N types or are a ton of sensors "failing" the personality "tests"? I assume both are true to some degree.

 

[cascadeco]

Exactly. That's also why I am reconsidering my type for the tenth time, I want to remove all of the possible biases that led me to a wrong one and understand how my mind truly works.
On the other hand,
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there's this graph, taken from a study I'd like to link but I'm on mobile. It clearly shows that the youngsters prefer N over S by a 50% ratio. Is the champion biased? Or are those statistics attendible? Who knows.

Re young generation, gen Y and people born in the 2000's are also, in the U.S. at least, part of a culture that applauds N 'innovation', 'outside the box' thinking, all of that stuff. Look at any job posting in the past 15 years or so. The hipster era brought about 'N' 'values' (though it began prior).

 

[cascadeco]

But still, a Si user would absorbe those values, look N, but still be Si-driven.
I should go look about how our personality develops during time.

Well right, that's kind of what I'm saying. Thus when an S (could be tied to Si or any value system / non-perception-based), particularly a younger one, would answer questions, if they've absorbed 'N' type attributes, or personally value them, as something they believe it's important to identify with/strive for, then they very well may end up with an N result.

 

[Smilephantomhive]

Well right, that's kind of what I'm saying. Thus when an S (could be tied to Si or any value system / non-perception-based), particularly a younger one, would answer questions, if they've absorbed 'N' type attributes as something they believe it's important to identify with/strive for, then they very well may end up with an N result.

Oh that's probably what I did. I don't think it's a bad thing though. Creativity makes life more fulfilling.

 

[cascadeco]

Oh that's probably what I did. I don't think it's a bad thing though. Creativity makes life more fulfilling.

No, I mean I don't think it's a 'bad' thing, it's just one reason S's might identify with N or test as N.

 

[Starry]

Hmm, I wonder what other trends we can find in dissecting the population here. Not to post something totally off the intention of this thread, perhaps we can start another, but I'd be curious to explore the population here, see why certain types are attracted to this site, and what, about this site attracts that type of individual. Never thought about this site attracting Sx doms. Interesting!

*edit: forgot to mention Starry, I don't tend to look all that deep into people's actions on this site so if you accidentally overlook a post of mine for example, I really won't think anything of it, same goes for likes (I feel some members may give likes WAY too much thought ) I give people the benefit of the doubt by default. At times, too much so! Long story short, you're good

That would have made me so uncomfortable though!. Like, I feel like I've done that before...perhaps many times. Say the exact opposite of the post directly above because I missed it leaving that poster to be like wtf? Anyway, I do think what you said is the prevailing understanding.

 

[Dreamer]

That would have made me so uncomfortable though!. Like, I feel like I've done that before...perhaps many times. Say the exact opposite of the post directly above because I missed it leaving that poster to be like wtf? Anyway, I do think what you said is the prevailing understanding.

Haha oh my goodness, yes, totally get ya. I do have certain things that just don't sit well with me either. Like oh, it can be perceived this way but serious! Didn't mean that. Usually those moments come from my lack of attention to detail and totally just overlooking the obvious at times. I've gotten better though, but wow do I have my stories to tell. Perhaps that'd be a fun thread topic. One such example, is I could've sworn that was what the "Sensotard" thread was all about, not noticing things about your environment. I post in it with a story, and sure enough, I realize later that thread was actually a slam against sensors! Whoops

 

[Coriolis]

Still rubbing it in about the laser business . Silicon is a good laser element. Im not sure about titanium but i can say you INTJs cannot make lasers as you lack Si and Ti while these are both materials i have access to as an ENTP plus i can add Neon for decoration just to boast that i can make chaos and destruction look pretty. Hey I can see the Ne vs Ni differences here. I am vomiting all over you with Ne then you are collecting the vomit and directing it back to me in a high pressure stream.

Exactly. Now what does that sound like?

You have the elements backwards. Titanium in sapphire has been a workhorse research laser for decades, while silicon as a laser is mostly a dud save for a few lab table curiosities. You are correct about neon, though. It is mostly good for decoration - and alignment of optical systems. ENTP's can probably be entrusted with those as the power rarely exceeds a few mW.

I dunno where you guys are getting high Fe from [MENTION=30122]Brain in a Jar[/MENTION]. They seem like they have a healthy tert Fe.

My estimation as well.

Based on the couple posts of Brain in a Jar I'd say xNTP/xNTJ.

There's no way he is a J. Just no.

I totally feel like I'm currently conducting some experiment on you right now haha

It's about time, too. Why else would someone keep a brain in a jar if not for future experimentation?

 

[Bush]

It's about time, too. Why else would someone keep a brain in a jar if not for future experimentation?

Because it looks cool..?

 

[Coriolis]

Because it looks cool..?

Hey - you cannot have your brain and dissect it, too.

 

[Dr Mobius]

I feel I should probably interject into this entertaining witch hunt; given (I think at least.) I was the first to use the term forced Ne in relation to Brain in the Jar. To clarify exactly what I meant by that.

A forced function is the overextension of the stunted tertiary; one has enough control over it to amp it up but not to control its simplistic nature. It's also antagonistic to the lead function; leading to a cyclical inhibition. To put it in context: Ne jumps from point to point, tertiary Ne will jump from point A to point B etc at no moment will you be unable to follow their train of thought. Je functions on the other hand are about external objective metrics; so at some point in their jumping the correct response will be obtained. At which time the methodical jumping will slow down essentially reverting to their natural state. To use Brain as an example; just look at his continuous chemistry/function puns. Even when tertiary Ne is amped up it is still ludicrously consistent.

 

[citizen cane]

I still insist that [MENTION=8936]highlander[/MENTION] is secretly an ISTJ.

 

[highlander]

I still insist that [MENTION=8936]highlander[/MENTION] is secretly an ISTJ.

Not even close to one. Sorry. It's the 6 that is tripping you up.

Enneagram and MBTI Correlation - Typology Wiki

"Reflecting the the higher frequency of 6 among sensors and higher percentage of sensors in the population as a whole, it can be observed that 87% - 89% of Enneagram 6s are Sensors. There was an especially strong correlation specifically between Enneagram 6 and the SJ Temperament. ISTJs and ISFJs are the two types that are most likely to be Enneagram 6 and these two types alone constitute 46% - 57% of the Enneagram 6s in the overall population."

 

[Dreamer]

There's no way he is a J. Just no.

Aww, you don't want him?? I feel like this is some sad flashback to a high school team selection between two captains.

 

[Lord Lavender]

I feel I should probably interject into this entertaining witch hunt; given (I think at least.) I was the first to use the term forced Ne in relation to Brain in the Jar. To clarify exactly what I meant by that.

A forced function is the overextension of the stunted tertiary; one has enough control over it to amp it up but not to control its simplistic nature. It's also antagonistic to the lead function; leading to a cyclical inhibition. To put it in context: Ne jumps from point to point, tertiary Ne will jump from point A to point B etc at no moment will you be unable to follow their train of thought. Je functions on the other hand are about external objective metrics; so at some point in their jumping the correct response will be obtained. At which time the methodical jumping will slow down essentially reverting to their natural state. To use Brain as an example; just look at his continuous chemistry/function puns. Even when tertiary Ne is amped up it is still ludicrously consistent.

You make a very compelling argument. While I am a natural at using Ne in debates to get my point across ( I resort to analogies and metaphors to get my points across and can create them on the spot) there is a certain consistency in them that i wouldn't expect from a Ne dom. I would think for a Ne dom their Ne would be like a cloud as it is all encompassing and they can call upon it at any time. I think my Ne function is more like a writing desk as I write down my Ne and keep it in a Si filing cabent for future use like with my function puns. Plus i notice i do hyper empathize logic which means it is probably my inferior function like say for instance a man who is insecure in say for instance his writing skills will boast at how good he is at writing. I seem to have a very natural grasp of Fe as well as i seem to have an uncanny abillty to put an end to political debates i have ended up in by finding common ground despite different perspectives (Fe-Ne).

In real life many people think i am a xNxP type but this is due to shallow traits. Again I resemble a xNxP type on the surface due to my interest in science, my nerdy nature and love of what if debates (What if native Americans invaded Europe and what possible changes to the timeline could lead to that and e.t.c) plus my disorganized,spacey and lack of detail orientation but again MBTI is cognition not surface traits. Like many people might think a whale is a fish just because they look similar when they are enterly different animals.

I see what you mean by not bouncing around as much as a Ne dom. Ne doms bounce from building to building, aux from room to room, tert around the room and inferior jumping on the spot.