ISFP or INFP?

[Purple INFJ]

If you're prone to going through tangents when talking, you're probably an INFP.

If you're more likely to be a keep-it-simple talker, you're more likely an ISFP.

 

[Mal12345]

He just wants to talk about VI now.

Let him talk to himself.

 

[fetus]

If you're prone to going through tangents when talking, you're probably an INFP.

If you're more likely to be a keep-it-simple talker, you're more likely an ISFP.

Hm, I don't think this is necessarily true. Functions are deeper than that.

 

[Purple INFJ]

Hm, I don't think this is necessarily true. Functions are deeper than that.

INFPs value Ne, hence they tend to go through tangents in conversation.

ISFPs, because of their Se preference, tend to be more to the point.

 

[fetus]

INFPs value Ne, hence they tend to go through tangents in conversation.

ISFPs, because of their Se preference, tend to be more to the point.

The issue with the association with Ne and tangents is that people tend to place themselves more on the Ne side. They think, "Hey I'm random and weird and I go on tangents, so I must be Ne." I'm an exceedingly tangential person and not an NP.

 

[Fernando Perla]

I'm an exceedingly tangential person and not an NP.

My ISFP dream still alive.

 

[fetus]

My ISFP dream still alive.

Absolutely.

-Tangential
-Creative
-Random
-Insightful
-Intelligent
-Imaginative
-Original

You can be all these things and a Sensor. Don't listen to anyone who tries to type you as an iNtuitive just because you have these traits.

 

[Fernando Perla]

The Sixteen Types: INFP - YouTube

The Sixteen Types: ISFP - YouTube

I don't feel particulary identified with neither.

 

[Purple INFJ]

The issue with the association with Ne and tangents is that people tend to place themselves more on the Ne side. They think, "Hey I'm random and weird and I go on tangents, so I must be Ne." I'm an exceedingly tangential person and not an NP.

I do think SPs and NPs can share a tendency to hop around in conversation in a way that can offset me as an INJ.

But I think we Ni/Se types share a tendency to seek "the essence of things", "the heart of the question", "the central truths of things", you get the point (lol).

Not saying that Si/Ne types can't do this, but I think they have a tendency to go around things rather than through them as is the Ni/Se style.

Generally speaking, when something interests them, I think they tend to discuss it seeking to make it look more and more complicated, wanting to cover multiple angles, etc.

Whereas we Ni/Se types tend to seek to summarize, and at times, I think we can come across as overly simplistic to Si/Ne types, while we can perceive them as caught up in vines.

 

[Venus Rose]

Imo we aren't trying to make it look more and more complicated, its just how our minds work. For example, you don't question dreams for being illogical. Similarly, we are wired in a way that is fundamentally different from another but there isn't necessarily a logical reasoning as to why it is that way. Sometimes it can be motivated by fear (or lack of it)...but yeah.

Ne isn't completely "random" either. That's just not how thinking works lol. It finds a small nudget and it quickly and excitedly jumps to another somewhat related framework. They might not be essentially the same, but it's not completely random either.

Se-Fi can be random but as I said, the ISFP I know tends to talk more in terms of sensations and the feelings they arise in her, and INFP will tend to talk more in idealistic terms, even if they were to (incorrectly) term it factual. There's this very obvious, "I wish the world were this way" quality with them, that you don't see that much with ISFP.

 

[Purple INFJ]

Absolutely.

-Tangential
-Creative
-Random
-Insightful
-Intelligent
-Imaginative
-Original

You can be all these things and a Sensor. Don't listen to anyone who tries to type you as an iNtuitive just because you have these traits.

Yup, Sensors can do great things. Sensation and iNtuition shouldn't be taken to imply IQ levels, they are simply instruments of perception.

And the difference between ISFPs and INFPs is best understood in terms of functions as oppposed to dichotomy. Since neither type has an Inferior Sensing or Intuition function, looking at S/N dichotomy can prove quite useless in distinguishing them.

 

[Smilephantomhive]

Yup, Sensors can do great things. Sensation and iNtuition shouldn't be taken to imply IQ levels, they are simply instruments of perception.

And the difference between ISFPs and INFPs is best understood in terms of functions as oppposed to dichotomy. Since neither type has an Inferior Sensing or Intuition function, looking at S/N dichotomy can prove quite useless in distinguishing them.

But isn't that the only way to tell the difference between them??

 

[Purple INFJ]

But isn't that the only way to tell the difference between them??

Not really, because when you have your Perceiving preferences in the middle positions of your preferential stack, it can be hard to tell what you prefer between Sensation and Intuition.

Plus, dichotomies, in my view, should be viewed through the cognitive functions, and it shouldn't be done the other way around.

But yeah, ISFPs prefer Se and Ni, whereas INFPs prefer Ne and Si.

I think at least most INFPs will tend to not be that good at Se, while ISFPs will tend to not be very good at Ne.

I think there's a tendency in Se Doms and Auxiliaries to desire constant physical motion (an I'm open to being wrong here) whereas I think INFPs might tend to crave this sort of thing less, as their restlessness can tend to be more in the realm of jumping through multiple ideas (again, I'm open to being wrong).

 

[Smilephantomhive]

Not really, because when you have your Perceiving preferences in the middle positions of your preferential stack, it can be hard to tell what you prefer between Sensation and Intuition.

Plus, dichotomies, in my view, should be viewed through the cognitive functions, and it shouldn't be done the other way around.

But yeah, ISFPs prefer Se and Ni, whereas INFPs prefer Ne and Si.

I think at least most INFPs will tend to not be that good at Se, while ISFPs will tend to not be very good at Ne.

I think there's a tendency in Se Doms and Auxiliaries to desire constant physical motion (an I'm open to being wrong here) whereas I think INFPs might tend to crave this sort of thing less, as their restlessness can tend to be more in the realm of jumping through multiple ideas (again, I'm open to being wrong).

That still seems like S/N difference, but okay.

 

[Fernando Perla]

I'm feeling ISFJ! Help!

 

[Venus Rose]

[MENTION=28455]Fernando Perla[/MENTION]

Read Jung's description of the functions

 

[Smilephantomhive]

[MENTION=28455]Fernando Perla[/MENTION]

Read Jung's description of the functions

I definitely agree, and take your time in trying to understand what each function is. Don't just take it at face value. If you're too impatient for that then answer a questionnaire, and people here will try and figure out your type. I mean you're asking us to type you when we don't know anything about you.

 

[highlander]

I'm feeling ISFJ! Help!

Take a look at these and see if any of them fit. Look at the videos.

INFP - Typology Wiki

ISFP - Typology Wiki

ISFJ - Typology Wiki

 

[Fernando Perla]

[MENTION=28455]Fernando Perla[/MENTION]

Read Jung's description of the functions

I agree on leading Fi, but I'm not sure on supportive Fe or Se.

 

[Galena]

Another reading suggestion would be on the Ni/Se versus Ne/Si. It's a big difference.

I typed as INFP for a short while before I did a closer examination of the perceiving functions, but now wouldn't even begin to consider INFP again. Hope that will help you, too.