I value the efort of everybody in the thread so far. But I see that it is not going as it is ment to be. Everybody took this as cry for help but this wasn't ment to be that way. On plenty places in the OP I have said that this is not about me and I have also said that all of that was just to understand the level of detachment and to detach reader from everyday life.
Plus to expain my position better.
I didn't define topic completly because on many places I have said "this can be descused to a greater degree later" and another reason is that a lot can be said about this or similar topics.
SInce things turned out this way I will clearly define the topic.
This is about something that is surely the greatest story of our time and I think that it deserves a thread.
It is about replacing natural with artificial.
For the sake of an argument let's say that some things are natural and some things are artificial. While everything is actually natural.
Science was created/invented to help humanity deal with the environment and help them survive in that same environment. The rate of progress in the last century quite big, but in the last 20 years there are sings that science at the current direction leads into something that leads into something that can be described as uncharted terrtory. In the last 20 years mechines made a huge jump in their ability to percive the world and to make much accurete calculations then human can. Personally I am into hard science and it looks to me that almost all job is done my a machines. Since all the time you are measuring something that you can't see, hear, touch ...... you even can't fully understand it since common sense says that that this is impossible.
I am taking about atoms here. Also this atoms tend to show that our world is incredebly old. The number is actually to big to be understand.
Since machines do all the "dirty work" scientist job is to turn them on and analyse data that comes out. In some cases scientist are even too dumb/limited to understand what data actually says.
This is actually just one simple example but machines are vital part of every aspect of our society and if you remove them a lot of people will die.
In the last couple of years there are machines that are no longer under a direct controle of humans and some of them are even armed.
Here is one video about it. It starts in a more innocent way and then stars to show where we actually are.
[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGxDVIwEWH8"]Military robots[/YOUTUBE]
Form this video it is more or less clear where we are and even more where we are going. In the next few decades this concepts will probably gain even more strenght.
Since country that starts to develope this kind of military could have huge advantage over the more undeveloped country. Since this alows you kill your enemy without even getting into the battle. Not to menation how much you save on supply lines since robots don't need so many things as soldiers do.
So instead of producing supplies you can produce more robots.
Plus they don't need to sleep or rest, they don't celebrete holidays and they are not moody or stressed and they don't want to be paid.
In a case that your invasion fails and the country that is a victim is damadged you have actually won. Not to mention that you can lunch another invasion in 3 weeks and that some of those things can "survive" a bullet or two.
For this entire story the equaly important is the part in political section called " (Un)sustainabe development". I have separated those two to avoid OP that is too big. But this is the part same story and I will soon start to post there.
Where is the connection?
Connection is that this world we are living in is not stable and it will start to change itself. The huge population that live in undeveloped world will start to die. Which is because so many reason that there is no point to count them since the details are in the other thread.
To me it looks that things will go this way.
Developed world will have some major problems. To solve many of them or to relieve some situations there will probably be a lot of scientific and technological research that will lead in a direction toward society where machines play even a bigger role.
Many people in undeveloped world will die, but that will in a way destroy opposition to society based on principle "technology without limits".
If I understand correctly many forum members are already adicted to internet and other wonders of technology. Since you are short on resources actually it will be in your interest that people are online more and more.
I hope that others can now see why the thread is called "inhuman thoughts"
It is about humans getting more and more inhuman while abilities of machines are growing.
In a way my personality is also unnatural since it can't be created in natural environment. There is no way that I could be so distant or that I could get so abstract. I have spent much more times with machines then people.
This is not a argumet, this is a comment.
The thing is that humans are always on the same level but machinces are getting better and better every day. What means that it is inevitable that they will surpass us with enough time and without them there is no progress. Since human hands can't create something so sophisticated as machine can and humans need machinces to detect and analyse things that are out of reach for our senses. So even is we magicaly solve problems with environment we must progress or go back were we once were.
Here is a quote from OP.
Even if someone manages to create laws against this kind of activity there is no assurance that someone can’t do the research in secret and if you add thousands of years in the concept it is quite unlikely that this can be placed on hold forever.
Maybe if we manage to create a global police state, were privacy doesn’t exist which will last for the rest of the eternity, maybe then we will have a chance to stop it.
Not to mention that this state would be based on the technology you are trying to stop at all costs. The only alternative is that there will be the end of civilization.
Only way to make sure that someone or some generation doesn't push entire thing over the line is to retreat tech-level back few centuries and try to keep it there.
But even that will be temporary solution. Not to menton that from cosmic perspective this is suicidal thinking.
In a case that real AI is hard to create it is not impossible that Human brain will serve as a starting point.
There is a lot of what can be said here so I will for now leave it at this.
Now when other know about what I am talking about maybe I will get replies I am interested in.
This thread is not a cry for help. It is actually an attack on plans and ideals of others forum members.