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[MBTI General] How would a supressed/repressed extrovert look like?

noname3788

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I'm asking because while they are many articles on the web that describe introverts who were forced to socialize, go out and "have fun with people", the opposite is almost never mentioned. So what happens if an extrovert isn't allowed to socialise, meet friends, or he got bullied a lot, or is so poor that they can't attent parties or events at all? And how would it interact with their dominant and tertiary functions? Can't imagine, for example, dominant Fe to function well after going through anything of is. Or how is dominant Ne supposed to work without access to anything inspirational?
 

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First, keep in mind that an extrovert can be suppressed by being too extroverted, and not allowing for sufficient processing by their auxiliary function.

In the case that the dominant function is suppressed, the inferior would step up instead so it would probably look like this:


Fe: lonely, but acts like nothing bothers them

Te: feels unproductive, but acts like everything is peaceful and balanced

Ne: bored with nothing changing, but acts like they prefer things to stay the same

Se: bored that they're not having fun experiences, but acts like they're detached from the world anyway

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Bonus: for the introverts

Ni: unable to find meaning in their lives, they distract themselves with pleasurable activities

Si: unable to find stability in their lives, they resort to surfing currents of new developments

Fi: unable to live according to their values, they do what the environment demands of them

Ti: unable to maintain their autonomy, they go along with what others want

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Note: these apply to the auxiliary function as well, although in the auxiliary to tertiary case, the difference in function preference is smaller.

Actually, I think it applies to the 5th and 6th functions as well (deferring to the 8th and 7th), although in a way the person is less aware of.
 

Siúil a Rúin

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If the extrovert is energized by the outside world, then lack on input would leave them feeling drained similarly to an introvert having too much external stimulation. I think there would a tendency to fixate on the input they need, get obsessed with it, in the same way an introvert would zone out in a crowd.

For socially oriented extroversion, when they are bullied, lonely, or left out, there can be a tendency to overcompensate by approaching people too often. I read recently introverts here wondering why people approach them and give TMI about their life story, etc. That would be an example of a lonely social extrovert.

There should be more written about it because there are a lot of people dealing with those issues.
 

noname3788

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If the extrovert is energized by the outside world, then lack on input would leave them feeling drained similarly to an introvert having too much external stimulation. I think there would a tendency to fixate on the input they need, get obsessed with it, in the same way an introvert would zone out in a crowd.

For socially oriented extroversion, when they are bullied, lonely, or left out, there can be a tendency to overcompensate by approaching people too often. I read recently introverts here wondering why people approach them and give TMI about their life story, etc. That would be an example of a lonely social extrovert.

There should be more written about it because there are a lot of people dealing with those issues.

That makes a lot of sense. I guess from the outside, when only judging behavior, those lonely extroverts can not be distingiushed from actual introverts, maybe beside the fact that they get drained while being alone at home. Or maybe they'll try to distract themselves while being on their own, something like binge watching, become game addicts, watching tv or social media 24/7, since they need some stimulation, depending on their dominant function.

And yeah there aren't many resources about it, at least judging from the amount of blog posts and forum threads about it. For example, for every ENFJ post there are at least ~30 INFJ posts, and it becomes even worse for ESxx types. And most of the articles mentioning Exxx types are only a part of posts which read like "here's what each type is doing if [...]" or similar stuff, and it also seems like it is just included for the sake of completion. Doesn't make it easier if you're trying to understand extroverts, or if you're struggling whether your type is I or E.
 

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Extraversion isn't solely focused on people. It's focused on external stimuli which might or might not include people. Also, the majority of the population clump around the center and are often called ambiverts.

So, to summarize, introverts and extraverts who love people will become depressed from a lack of socialization. Introverts and extraverts who aren't people oriented, will find other things to do.
 
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I assume that what you mean by introvert is MBTI type that begins with IXXX and extrovert is MBTI type that begins with EXXX. If that was the case, It would a stereotypical judgement that IXXX is not sociable vice versa.

Extroverted judgement function like Fe, Te, are energized with objective realities, but the objective reality does not have to be always people; it can be something else. So when they were let say, forced not to socialize, the functions can still work with their own nature as long as they have objective realities that make them conscious. How would it affect with the tertiary paired with inferior function. ?

If the primary function is conscious function like Fe and paired with relatively unconscious Si , The Ne and Ti would be unconscious.
As Jung says in psychological types.
Carl Jung said:
A grouping of the unconscious functions also takes place in accordance with the relationship of the conscious functions. Thus, for instance, an unconscious intuitive feeling attitude may correspond with a conscious practical intellect, whereby the function of feeling suffers a relatively stronger inhibition than intuition.

Psychological Types, p 517

If you lock ESFJ down at house and took their cell phone, internet so that she couldn't check facebook, They can still be productive by doing chores.


But it should be different story with intuitive dominant, as Jung says that the subject or the person or the intuitor who intuits is quite unsconscious.
Carl Jung said:
In the same way, the certainty of intuition depends upon a definite psychic matter of fact, of whose origin and state of readiness, however, the subject was quite unconscious.
Psychological Types p 568
 

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I assume that what you mean by introvert is MBTI type that begins with IXXX and extrovert is MBTI type that begins with EXXX. If that was the case, It would a stereotypical judgement that IXXX is not sociable vice versa.

Extroverted judgement function like Fe, Te, are energized with objective realities, but the objective reality does not have to be always people; it can be something else. So when they were let say, forced not to socialize, the functions can still work with their own nature as long as they have objective realities that make them conscious. How would it affect with the tertiary paired with inferior function. ?

If the primary function is conscious function like Fe and paired with relatively unconscious Si , The Ne and Ti would be unconscious.
As Jung says in psychological types.


Psychological Types, p 517

If you lock ESFJ down at house and took their cell phone, internet so that she couldn't check facebook, They can still be productive by doing chores.


But it should be different story with intuitive dominant, as Jung says that the subject or the person or the intuitor who intuits is quite unsconscious.

Psychological Types p 568

Yeah I meant the MBTI version of extrovert, not necessarily sociability but I think the difference doesn't really matter. And I wanted to view it from a developmental perspective - locking an ESFJ in their house won't change him in the short run. However, assuming that his childlike self won't be allowed to socialize or is made fun of every time he tries to develop his dominant Fe, maybe got through school bullying and others exploiting his supportive nature, could he fully recover from it or would he outwardly appear as a different type, probably an introvert?

And yeah it is partially related to myself, as I don't really seem to relate to introverted tendencies (like extensive withdrawal, getting "drained" by socialising or preferring time alone over meeting friends), but also not having typical extrovert strengths. And there's generally a lack of extrovert articles in general on the web and almost no ones that describe extrovert struggles - on most MBTI resources people just mention Exxx types just to make their posts about all the types complete. Ofc there is an abundance of INxx type posts, they are the most likely people to become interested in personality theory, but it's already not helpful if someone is simply struggling whether he is, for example, INFJ or ENFJ.
 

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Yeah I meant the MBTI version of extrovert, not necessarily sociability but I think the difference doesn't really matter. And I wanted to view it from a developmental perspective - locking an ESFJ in their house won't change him in the short run. However, assuming that his childlike self won't be allowed to socialize or is made fun of every time he tries to develop his dominant Fe, maybe got through school bullying and others exploiting his supportive nature, could he fully recover from it or would he outwardly appear as a different type, probably an introvert?

And yeah it is partially related to myself

I do relate either, Im pretty much the case.
Answers here needs to get slightly better, although they were not that bad. Hoping for better answers in this thread.
 
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