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[Traditional Enneagram] Enneagram Random Thought Thread

Doctor Anaximander

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I am known to be very open to trying new experiences and food, to the point I could almost mistype myself as a 7. That said, once I have tried something, it is very difficult for me to change my mind if I hated it. For instance, pimiento cheese grossed me out as a kid, and I would refuse to eat it for the longest time, until my wife finally convinced me to try her homemade recipe (which I did like quite a bit). Regarding drugs, I've tried most things offered to me at least once (with the exception of heroin, anything involving needles and any of that synthetic shit like bath salts)

And while I do enjoy trying new foods, I will usually stick to known favorites (especially if eating at a new restaurant). If it's a restaurant I've eaten at a lot and had good experiences with most of their dishes, then I will be more open to trying different dishes. Same with drugs, most of them that I have tried no longer interest me, except for cannabis which I use medicinally.

It should also be stated that despite liking trying new foods, my core favorite dishes are mostly about as basic as they come (cheeseburgers, caesar salads, etc).
 

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I do feel like I tend to carry a big store of nervous energy, and in theory it means I should be a more active person by default, but I have trouble willing myself to expend this energy. The thought of doing that gives me a great deal of anxiety. What if I do that but then I don't have enough energy left to devote to things I want to do, or to devote to potential crises?

It's also my experience that said energy burns up fast. So for example, I can get excited and enthusiastic about something like a trip to a nature preserve to look at flora and fauna, thinking to myself "alright, I'm excited to spend a day doing this", but once I've been there a little while, it doesn't take long for me to burn out and be ready to be home reading a book or zoning out with a video game. I've never been able to be one of these people who can spend an entire day doing a bunch of activities. I really wish I could be one of those people. Coffee helps, but even then, it's more a mental energy expenditure than a physical energy expenditure that tends to lead to my burnouts.
 

Anantashesha

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Loool I've been eating the same exact thing for lunch at school for over four years...

Wow, I physically cannot do this. I once had sausages and nuggets (at school) for two weeks straight then I didn't want to see or touch it anymore for over a decade.
 

RadicalDoubt

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Wow, I physically cannot do this. I once had sausages and nuggets (at school) for two weeks straight then I didn't want to see or touch it anymore for over a decade.

I tend to go back and forth between this mindset and "whatever is most simple." I brought peanut butter and jelly to school every single day for probably around 4 years because I could just scarf it down without actually paying attention to the flavor (and of course, when I stopped, I tended to avoid peanut butter in general for at least a year). I don't know if I'm the type that must try something new at a restaurant every time, but I am the type of person who typically tries to not visit the same restaurant twice and will proceed to order whatever thing on the menu is most foreign to me or seems the most obnoxious (within range of price and my allergies of course) almost every chance I get.
 

Saturnal Snowqueen

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I tend to go back and forth between this mindset and "whatever is most simple." I brought peanut butter and jelly to school every single day for probably around 4 years because I could just scarf it down without actually paying attention to the flavor (and of course, when I stopped, I tended to avoid peanut butter in general for at least a year). I don't know if I'm the type that must try something new at a restaurant every time, but I am the type of person who typically tries to not visit the same restaurant twice and will proceed to order whatever thing on the menu is most foreign to me or seems the most obnoxious (within range of price and my allergies of course) almost every chance I get.

Not allergic to peanuts eh??

I'm doing another very typically 79 stem thing-lately I've been trying the Dunkin "secret menu". It's kinda a bs name given that they make the ability to put flavor shots in things obvious, but it's a way for me to try something I didn't think of. I tried a mint cocoa with a coconut shot in it cause it told me that it'd taste like a peppermint patty(and it did). Also tried a vanilla bean coolata with a hazelnut shot, which was supposed to taste like cake and it did. I kinda quietly judge people that order the same thing over and over, cause it's like you're spending your money to get the same old thing? Or if you're on break having lunch, you could be making the most of your time by eating something new but you're not. But eh, it's not my life.
 

Anantashesha

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I tend to go back and forth between this mindset and "whatever is most simple." I brought peanut butter and jelly to school every single day for probably around 4 years because I could just scarf it down without actually paying attention to the flavor (and of course, when I stopped, I tended to avoid peanut butter in general for at least a year). I don't know if I'm the type that must try something new at a restaurant every time, but I am the type of person who typically tries to not visit the same restaurant twice and will proceed to order whatever thing on the menu is most foreign to me or seems the most obnoxious (within range of price and my allergies of course) almost every chance I get.

What little Se I have I do use when eating, I do really like trying new things though I do have a high enough ick factor (pig feet soup, anyone?) that I wouldn't call myself a foodie. I think the most interesting experience is not just trying a new dish, but trying one from a new country, even if it has familiar elements (eg; US chicken noodle soup VS Chinese lo mein VS Japanese ramen VS Italian pasta-anything all have noodles but all taste different).

When I really end up liking something though I can visit again and again for my same favourite dishes. This is truer for stuff like coffee.
 

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I'm sure that, like with most Enneagram tests, the results for the Eclectic Energies one can be really faulty. But this is the first time my sx 4 score has been so apparent (I hadn't taken it in almost a year.) I wonder what happened.

The one thing I like about that test is that for someone who's as prone to overthinking as I am, it's pretty easy to fill out in my experience.


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Pessimistic Hippie

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I didn't see it before, but my 4 envy/competitiveness is very real, and I hate it.

I don't actively compete but I feel the desire to. I feel the sense of "How do these people who seem to live better than I do despite their own major personality flaws, do so? How do I get there?" But instead of allowing myself to try, I never have the energy to try to 'win' (it's because I know it's a losing battle. I'd never be fully satisfied if I have in) so I just try to suppress it. The urge is always there regardless, nagging at me like the devil on my shoulder.

I feel it mostly with my ex whom I have no feelings for anymore, just because I strongly dislike him and I resent seeing him seem to do better than me.

Regardless I know that my desire to live my own life free of envy is stronger. It's simply a matter of not quite knowing how to, mentally. Most of the time I just end up feeling stuck for this reason, so to speak.
 

chickpea

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the #nota4 movement is sending me into a spiral.... maybe [MENTION=22109]Evee[/MENTION] was right and i am a 7 after all....
 

Doctor Anaximander

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I think 5s make good villains. Kind of like David or Ash from the Alien universe. Their evil deeds are motivated by a desire to learn and understand. That's different from the standard emotionally driven villainous motives seen in a lot of characters. In some ways it makes them even more terrifying than say, an 8 or 3 villain. Everyone works toward acquisition, but where an 8 villain might be acquired with hurting others to attain power, or a 3 hurting others to attain status, the 5 villain would hurt people to attain pure knowledge and understanding.

I have to confess that when I've done shitty things to people, it was usually motivated by a desire to "see what happens" if I said or did X thing.

I think a 5 villain would be most similar to a 7 or 9 villain. I think 7s would have similar motivations, although I could see 9 and 5 villains sharing some similar concerns as well.
 
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