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differences? similarities?
Yeah really i'm not sure. My mother is likely an ENFP artist and she says she is more of a colourist than an artist. She also paints fantasy art... spaceships and fairies and mystical creatures that she makes up, she also wrote a story or two, one about a green wizard and all sorts of interesting magical beasts-she illustrated her own book. Honestly I think her art is amazing. But i'll admit a slight bias.
I could add a pic of one of her paintings if you like?
Sure, show me
I've been recently to the modern art museum here in Oslo and...I was struck by the amount of artists that are actually fascinated by the medium of their art. And...Id wager that those are mostly SFPs. They really get mesmerised by the physical experience and opportunities and limitations of the material they're working with, always trying to push the boundaries and ideas for working with their preferred medium, by testing the crap out of it.
There was one piece where they played with the fragility of baked clay and stacked it in such a way that it actually became stronger than wood.
One of them had made the same art piece 6 times over but baked it in the oven each time for a different length of time. So you could see the progress from 'raw' to the last piece being almost melted to the floor.
And one of em had recreated the feel and look of the inside of the human body (on a cellular level) when cut in half with rolls of red fabric, using different textures, colours and accents to really mimic everything.
If you compare that with the pieces that [MENTION=9160]HelenOfTroy[/MENTION] made, and the difference becomes perhaps a bit more...clear?
Possibly SFP art can be incredibly abstract as can NFP art however usually there is some basis in reality for SFP art whereas NFP art is usually non reality based or taken from reality and morphed into fantasy... Just an idea....
Thinkign about Cascadeco's beautiful art and also other famous SFP artists who have abstract colours and abstractions from reality like maybe one of my all time favourite artists Van Gogh who is typed as SFP.
I think Van Gogh is INFP. I thought ISFP until I read his writings. He had wanted to be a missionary but failed at it and then decided to glorify God by painting stuff which would make people look at God's creation with new, appreciative eyes.
To me his motive slants towards INFP, as does lots of other stuff he talks about.
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I don't know if you can look at the art itself and see a type.
I am not really an "artist", but I drawn and pretty much always have. I personally dislike most fantasy, although it is not like I would purposely avoid it. I feel stifled or contrived to have too much concept ahead of time too.
I pretty much have a general image in my head, maybe inspired by something I have seen for the structural aspects, and it vaguely feels attached to some feeling that is not so readily expressed in everyday language. It is very visceral and often can be boiled down to "I just like it" or "I just feel like it". I guess what I like about drawing and painting and any artistic expression is precisely that I can go from feeling to output with no reasoning or analyzing inbetween.
The idea that ISFPs are really into their materials and pushing the boundaries of their usage is interesting, and I think that may be onto something. As an INFP, the material means little. I too enjoy experimentation with a process, but I think the boundaries I am seeking to push are emotional - how well I can articulate a feeling so as to stimulate it in others. Perhaps it is just to give it a life, so that it is validated by existence outside of me. I wouldn't claim this is exclusive to INFPs though.
There is the aspect of Si for an INFP, in which there is an interest in amping up the subjective aspects, so as to make it a highly personal rendering (as opposed to photographic), and I think the impressionism and expressionism movements were a bit more INFP because of it. I think ISFPs can get really abstract because of Ni. Pollock is a great example to me, how he embodied feelings in these dashes of color. Other times, ISFPs can get super detailed and photographic. But I definitely wouldn't say they are less conceptual or abstract or that INFPs cannot get really detailed as romantic notions motivate them to excessive embellishment or overcomplicating it.
I feel like both IxFPs will be coming from Fi primarily. I think IxFP art may be more similar than grouping it as SFP or NFP. I think we are looking at Pe va Fi here. I think Fi is primarily concerned with embodying feeling and using any means neccessary. I think Pe types explore methods or concepts and use Feeling as a motivator or to give meaning to the process.
I pretty much have a general image in my headmaybe inspired by something I have seen for the structural aspects, and it vaguely feels attached to some feeling that is not so readily expressed in everyday language.
As an INFP, the material means little. I too enjoy experimentation with a process, but I think the boundaries I am seeking to push are emotional - how well I can articulate a feeling so as to stimulate it in others.