Snuggletron
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I guess I can see the connection, but the creative folks who embrace this kind of thing just do it to feel more specialer about themshelves.
I guess I can see the connection, but the creative folks who embrace this kind of thing just do it to feel morespecialerspecial about themshelves.
It's exactly this kind of belief (or the pretence of it) that has led to hundreds, if not thousands of years of hostile take overs of lands. Of course the real reasons, more obviously in earlier history were simply to own the land and it's properties- diamonds, spices,oil, fertile land etc. Also for strageic millitary purposes. Of course other reasons too but for a large part the reasons i have mentioned.
Labeling yourself as having mental problems makes you feel special?
I don't see your reasoning.
If that was meant to be a pun, it could have used some improvement so it was actually funny...>mental problems
>special
Tribal practices are sexist, racist and xenophobic based on slavery, the subjugation of women and the abuse of children.
And tribal beliefs are based on ignorance of the world and themselves. Their beliefs are superstitious, cruel and out of touch with reality.
Unfortunately Western civilization romanticises tribalism. But the only place Romantic tribalism ever existed is in the minds of the Romantic West.
The only important thing about tribalism is how to get out of it. And the answer is surprisingly simple - literacy.
But literacy requires that every child be compelled by law to leave their family and tribe and go to a special institution called, "School", to learn to read and write.
Unfortunately you only get universal law after you get universal literacy - so for tribalists, this is Catch 22.
Fortunately for the tribalists the universally literate West is forcing literacy upon them.
The illiterate world is confronting the literate world and we see this starkly in Afghanistan.
And the illiterate world will only be overcome by force majeure, just as our children are forced to go to school.
But of course the facts of life are too difficult to bear without romanticising them.
You would make a horrible anthropologist.
We are a visual culture, while they are an aural culture.
So are you suggesting that literate Western culture is superior to "sexist", "barbarian" tribalism, as you put it? They are "ignorant of the world"? "Out of touch with reality"?
I've only had schizophrenic episodes about 3-4 times in my life, and in no way have they been fun, enlightening, or in any way have inspired my creativity.
I know someone who has serious mental disorders and is mostly robotic.
I see little relation.
That's why it's my opinion.
I wasn't talking about the article specifically. As you know, topics tend to change as more posts get added to them. But on that note, I would think a tendency to receive unfiltered signals to the thalamus would make it more likely that you would be sensitive to stimuli around you, i.e. the environment. And I include culture with environment. Perhaps "receptive" was not a good word choice, since that implies a conscious taking-in of information. By sensitive, I don't mean being in tune with your environment. I mean being "aware" and not necessarily consciously. You become so viscerally "aware" that it's almost difficult to control and that manifests itself in strange behavior/illness and creative, artistic masterpieces.
nice job thereYou're getting this back to front, a converse error of reasoning. It's not about mental disorders necessarily being a source of creative insight, but about creativity and certain mental disorders possibly sharing a common neurological origin. Creativity could perhaps be taken as the sucessful healthy channeling of these traits, severe mental disorder as the unhealthy channeling, which may serve to actually destroy or undermine creative potential by inhibiting the person's overall functioning.
In this model, a person who was both mentally disordered and was still able to achieve something creative would not be creative because of the mental disorder, they would be creative because they were still able to make some successful use of their innate potential despite the fact that it was to some extent also functioning unhealthily.