Elfboy
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[MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION]
no.could my gut fix be 8
no.could my gut fix be 8
he's the same on camera =)I think you're just a really extraverted extravert, and that's just who you are. And you're a 729 at the same time, I think. I've just never really seen any 8ish "control" out of you. You seem to roll with the situation and adjust accordingly and respond and be happy and wish and want and dream.
But of course I do not know you IRL so those are just my internet-mediated impressions.
Everyone I know who is 7w8, or 8w7 is very much OK with the concept of "This is how shit is going to be, because I'm busy and you're not the boss of me."
Everyone I know who is 7w8, or 8w7 is very much OK with the concept of "This is how shit is going to be, because I'm busy and you're not the boss of me."
Hmm, interesting! I'm not sure yet. I will think on this today.
For some reason, I have quite a few friends who are 9s. I say "for some reason" because I feel like my personality clashes with 9ness. The thing I notice about them is that denial plays a huge role in their lives (i.e. denying unpleasant feelings, denying reality). They also very easily take on the identity/worldview of those around them that they want to preserve a relationship with no matter how absurd or departed from reality those views are. They think of it as being "flexible" and see others as "rigid" for not doing so. Can you relate to any of this so far?
I think there'll be quite a few people that will disagree with me here but I'm going with 8 for you.
All I want to know is "when the shit comes down" what is Chanaynay going to do? What is your trigger? Yes, you want peace and social niceties...but when you are pushed too far I believe you will stand your ground and fight.
Heh.
Also, I guess the stuff I posted on the first page would really only be helpful for figuring out your core, if anything, huh.
- My anger is a measurable and very real part of my daily life. It motivates me, or de-motivates me, depending.. but it is not something I can avoid. I'm an angry person. This isn't to be confused for being unhealthy.. I clearly don't go around yelling at people all the time, or losing my temper at any one thing. But controlling my anger was something I had to learn at a young age, and I struggled with it growing up. Usually I'll pick up trash not because "Oh, yay, I'm helping the environment! and I wouldn't want to see litter around... " but more "What an ass, throwing this cup on the ground. Fuck him or her."
- The only thing more motivating than my anger is my feeling of needing to be in control.
- Challenges come in all forms. I am very competitive--with myself.. not so much with others.
- I have resting bitchy face. That's apparently a thing, and I definitely have it. (Note: this has nothing to do with anything.)
Interesting starry. Would 9w8 be like a good middle ground? I see what you mean, Chan about your extra extroversion. It's more of a direct drive you have than me, which seems to be a good argument for something 8-ish in there. I've seen you take hard stances and react when something comes up, but not being able to recall the last time you really got angry makes me think 9w8 might be more likely. I read 9w8 called 'the mountain' before. So maybe that isn't 'forward' enough gut energy...8w9?
What do you fear more Chanaynay...being controlled or being separated?
^^I guess I should add that...if Chanaynay was a 729 and a social dom...I would expect him to never react to much really. I can't explain what I have seen of him with merely an 8 wing of a fix. He's still quite young and he's pretty dominant/forceful...and I actually would expect him to become moreso as he ages... but that's just my take on things.
omg chandler i don't think i ever came to a conclusion!! or if i did i might have forgotten it! haha ahhh awesome now i'm going to b obsessed with this shiz again!
i gots no answers for you man. :/
My vote is for 729, my friend.
I think you are much more nice than that, as in you are assertive - but not necessarily confrontational by default.
Everyone I know who is 7w8, or 8w7 is very much OK with the concept of "This is how shit is going to be, because I'm busy and you're not the boss of me."
I think you're just a really extraverted extravert, and that's just who you are. And you're a 729 at the same time, I think. I've just never really seen any 8ish "control" out of you. You seem to roll with the situation and adjust accordingly and respond and be happy and wish and want and dream.
But of course I do not know you IRL so those are just my internet-mediated impressions.
he's the same on camera =)
[MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION]
you could just be mistaking the natural assertiveness of core 7 for an 8 fix
I'm afraid I'd have to see you in some lascivious poses to make a call on your gut fix. Sorry, babe.
Hmm, the problem is 7 is a core assertive type too, so is that just me being a 7? You're definitely right about the 2nd line- I'm just not sure how much it applies to having an 8 fix.
This is the complete opposite of me - I really do not like to be the top dog leading everything and in control of everything. It puts too much negative emotion in me and too much responsibility I don't want. Having people constantly look to me for guidance, while flattering, honestly sounds awful to me. I can offer words of advice sometimes but I don't want to mother anyone around or anything. I'd rather people just do whatever they want and let me do what I want. Getting control just sounds unpleasant to me.
I'm not sure really, both sound terrible. The only fears I really don't relate to at all are 1, 3 (kind of - I do like to feel valuable), and 5. 9 and 8 are pretty much tied for me. I fear separation from others and my whole environment being estranged, but I also fear being controlled and having decisions made for me. But to be fair, I've also unknowingly had decisions made for me and when I found out I wouldn't really react at all because I wouldn't care that much. Being manipulated sounds much worse to me, because it's like making me betray myself. On the flip side, when my friends are all estranged and people aren't getting along I try to mediate and keep things connected.
Maybe! I'm surprised you think that of the bold part. People sometimes I can be a pretty dominant person even when I don't think so myself. It's weird how I can surprise myself sometimes. For 8, what wing would you say for me?
Whoops, sorry C for not responding right away...
When I wrote down 8...I absolutely knew that no one would agree...that everyone...and I mean everyone...that you called to the thread would be coming on here to cast their vote for 9 (I actually said something to that effect right? haha...I don't rem but I said something I think...)
Here's what I can say...
I 100% believe you are an 8. I do not believe an 8 fix is going to manifest itself in a person...especially when that person is an Ne dom x 1000 ENFP 7w6 so/sx heavy 2 fix... in the same way as it would an ENTJ core 8...or hell even an ENFP core 8. By this I mean...having an 8 fix... with your line-up...isn't going to somehow turn you into a Mafia Don. I'm looking at the 8 fear...I'm looking at your level of energy and extrovertion and individualism...and I'm comparing/contrasting all of that with those same aspects at point 9. And when I work through the math of it...the sum of it is... I do not see you as someone that could merge...or blend-in with anything haha. You have a strong identity. You have presence. And you have slight pushiness about you... you love to challenge things...just like you are doing in this thread.
Do I think I could convince you of this though? No. Am I attached to you seeing things my way? Sometimes I will fight the uphill battle if I feel it is something that would benefit the person to know...but you will be absolutely the same whether you have 8 or 9 listed as your gut fix...and so I think you should go with 9.
core 7 is already an assertive type[MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION]
Are you withdrawn (When problems arise, do you tend to withdraw into your own head, using logic or emotions?)
Or assertive (When problems arise, do you address them assertively to get what you want?)
core 7 is already optimistic (though Chan is a triple dose of optimistic. he makes me look 6w5/8w9 sometimes lol)Are you reactive (You get very volatile and reactive under stress?)
Or optimistic (You try to see the silver lining of a situation under stress and keep an optimistic outlook?
Which of these do you relate more to?
You have a compulsive need to control situations that you're in.
When serious problems arise, you tend to withdraw into your head to find inner peace. Conflict wears on you.
core 7 is already an assertive type
core 7 is already optimistic (though Chan is a triple dose of optimistic. he makes me look 6w5/8w9 sometimes lol)
[MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION]
you can't be serious.
278, 782, 827 - The Free Spirit: You like to use your charming, sunny disposition to create an upbeat, positive, and action-packed environment. You are also very nurturing to those in your circle of care. Your life mission is to be an instrument of change, transforming difficult situations into moments of inspiration. A true free spirit, you are happiest when you are on the go and helping others to learn to act on their own behalf. Your blind spot is that you can be so focused on keeping everything positive and honest that you can be too aggressive and fail to recognize the importance of difficult emotions. You also keep busy and in motion to avoid painful feelings. Your growing edge is to recognize that your need to always be postivie, upbeat, and free can limit your ability to self reflect and fully be yourself. True happiness and joy come from being present to your higher self and experiencing all of your emotions.
Oh but I am...
[MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION]
[MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION]
you can't be serious. 7s with an 8 fix are ruthless, acquisitive, rough-around-the-edges and usually competitive. [MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION] is gentle as a lamb and a cuddly ball of enthusiasm (just look at all his avatars and signatures. SOOO not 8 fixed )
Oh but I am...
[MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION]