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Cooperation: Islam and Christianity

Mustafa

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My pastor is a woman. I'm not your "Missy" ...but you using expressions which are fundamentally American and frequently specifically Southern tends to make me think that much more that you are a massive troll.
How?
 

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Any real transcendental spiritual practice teaches self control from within. Milk before meat and all that, but if this applies to grown men and not adolescent boys, it's retarding your spiritual growth.
This trancendenta l is mysticism. I am irregular guy and regular shia muslim.
 

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[MENTION=9811]Coriolis[/MENTION] [MENTION=21836]Also[/MENTION]
I'm sorry for the time I took to reply.

"My point is that presenting their religion as the ultimate truth to someone that will rarely if ever question what they say in that stage of their lives"

Now the highlighted is not what you wrote the first time. You wrote:

"I do have a problem when children are taught the "truth" of their parents' religion. Such irresponsibility, honestly."
I actually meant both scenarios the first time, where truth is quoted. On the second, I meant only those that say their doctrine is the one true doctrine.

Teaching your children the truth as you know it, and insisting to them that all other perspectives are categorically wrong, are two very different things.
Not when it comes to children. As I said, there's a difference, but a child will take everything their parents say to heart, making all the other perspectives seem incorrect by default. They grow up favoring the beliefs that were passed down by their parents. I wonder if in many cases, even as adults, there is no questioning at all.

Every child grows up speaking the language of his/her parents, or whomever is raising them. That doesn't require that they be told other languages are bad or wrong, to be avoided rather than studied.
This is not a fair comparison. As far as I know, language doesn't touch on ontology.

If parents don't provide spiritual guidance to children, even if it is to explain how they think spiritual beliefs are unnecessary, this leaves a vacuum for other people to fill as the child grows up.
Not a bad thing, in my opinion. The child would be exposed to many other perspectives without possessing a preset bias towards any in particular. It's silly for me to assume that, given that sort of intellectual freedom from the start, most wouldn't turn out Christian in a mostly Christian society, but the principle doesn't seem flawed to me. It allows for more open-mindedness and more questioning.

The "don't question anything" and "question everything" crowd are two sides of the same coin. Absolute in their ways and those who indulge in these practices are often unable to see beyond their preferred way of thinking. Either approach is not unique to a certain group of people.
In here do you mean paranoid people?

Parent raises child in a certain religious belief because doing anything otherwise would impair the safety or progress of the child. Moral?
I'd need more context.
 

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We have recently had a successful Court case where the Islamic organisation was ordered not to segregate women and men at public meetings.

It's plain Islam is aggressively misogynist and we will defeat you.

To read about the Court case click on https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/310...tahrir-found-guilty-of-gender-discrimination/
Dear Mole

I see how this example is wrong from the picture. But at our mosques we segragate men and women physically, and they come there by their own free will.

The west tries constantly to break Islam, but they can't.
 

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Dear Mole

I see how this example is wrong from the picture. But at our mosques we segragate men and women physically, and they come there by their own free will.

The west tries constantly to break Islam, but they can't.

I remember the morning after the Islamic destruction of the Twin Towers in New York. The destruction took place at night here but during the day in New York. But like many Australians I stayed up all night listening to the destruction.

The next morning I went to the Refectory at my university and went and sat with a group of muslims from the Muslim Students' Association, of which I was also a member.

I was shocked and horrified by the destruction but this whole table of muslims from the Students' Muslim Association were cock-a-hoop.

I was completely disorientated. How could I be shocked and horrified while the muslims were more than just happy.

On that day I left the Muslim Students' Association, and said, no matter what crimes Islam commits, we will defeat you.

We have defeated two totalitarianisms, National Socialism in Germany, and International Communism in Russia, and now we are faced with a third totalitarianism in radical Islam.
 

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[MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] I can't wait for the war to end too. In the movie matrix, neo asked the oracle whom is the chosen one and who is going to win and how will the war between the machines and humans end? The oracle said the war will end either way, wheither the machines or humans win.

We are (the good ones) robots. As Islam comes from the mind. We are machines. You should see Animatrix.
 

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[MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] I can't wait for the war to end too. In the movie matrix, neo asked the oracle whom is the chosen one and who is going to win and how will the war between the machines and humans end? The oracle said the war will end either way, wheither the machines or humans win.

We are (the good ones) robots. As Islam comes from the mind. We are machines. You should see Animatrix.

Islam is a medieval political religion that has failed to enter the modern world.

Interestingly it is a spoken culture that has tribal values, and is now overlaid with the new electronic culture which also has new tribal values. So we now have old tribal values supercharged with the new tribal values, leading to Islamic frenzy.

So now we have a frenzy of Islamic propaganda, hatred, discrimination, anti-semitism, and mass murder across the globe.

And the antidote to the both the old and new tribalism is literacy. Unfortunately the number of books published in muslim countries every year is minuscule compared to the number of books published in modern countries.

So as modern countries move into the new electronic tribalism, we have the antidote to hand in our universal literacy and vast libraries of books. But unfortunately Islam does not have such an antidote, and so are poisoning themselves with the new electronic tribalism.
 

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I think the Muslim Students' Assosciation got happy because they felt 'power' as never even slightly before. The muslim world doesn't thrive exactly. So they got happy.

I can maybe find a quote for you of a research which suggests, i believe, all suicide bombings are politically motivated and not religiously motivated, i've read it many times.
 

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I think the Muslim Students' Assosciation got happy because they felt 'power' as never even slightly before. The muslim world doesn't thrive exactly. So they got happy.

I can maybe find a quote for you of a research which suggests, i believe, all suicide bombings are politically motivated and not religiously motivated, i've read it many times.

Islam is not like a normal modern religion. Islam is both a religion and a political movement.

This is hard for modern people to understand as they have been raised on the separation of Church and State. But there is no separation of Mosque and State.

So modern religions are not trying to take over the State, while Islam is. Indeed it is a religious duty of muslims.
 

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Islam is a medieval political religion that has failed to enter the modern world.

Interestingly it is a spoken culture that has tribal values, and is now overlaid with the new electronic culture which also has new tribal values. So we now have old tribal values supercharged with the new tribal values, leading to Islamic frenzy.

So now we have a frenzy of Islamic propaganda, hatred, discrimination, anti-semitism, and mass murder across the globe.

And the antidote to the both the old and new tribalism is literacy. Unfortunately the number of books published in muslim countries every year is minuscule compared to the number of books published in modern countries.

So as modern countries move into the new electronic tribalism, we have the antidote to hand in our universal literacy and vast libraries of books. But unfortunately Islam does not have such an antidote, and so are poisoning themselves with the new electronic tribalism.
Gods ways are unpredictable :ninja:
 

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Islam is not like a normal modern religion. Islam is both a religion and a political movement.

This is hard for modern people to understand as they have been raised on the separation of Church and State. But there is no separation of Mosque and State.

So modern religions are not trying to take over the State, while Islam is. Indeed it is a religious duty of muslims.
I heard USA second generation muslims prayed to USA as it was their homeland, and they wanted to copy this to Norway. How about integrating muslims instead of just being afraid?:hug:
 

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I heard USA second generation muslims prayed to USA as it was their homeland, and they wanted to copy this to Norway. How about integrating muslims instead of just being afraid?:hug:

We are delighted to integrate you. All you have to do is embrace liberal democracy, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, end your anti-semitism and misogyny, end Islamic terrorism, abandon Sharia, abandon Creationism, start a global programme of universal literacy for muslims, and start opening libraries in muslim lands.

And as you have no intention of doing any of this, we know you don't want to integrate but to take over.
 

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[MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] We want to take over but not with force. Haha, we are an army of ISTJs and INTJs. Mind power :ninja: ... ESTP ESFP and .... Probably thats it.
 

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[MENTION=27574]Cowardly[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] and [MENTION=25403]ZombieNinjaPirate[/MENTION]

So when I launched an "attack" at the government (a vaccine really, but it was a secret by that time). I consicided with the Maya Calendar Judgment Day which everyone was waiting fearfully of, and maybe agnostically. What is interesting and new information is that I am born by two dates, one real and one unreal (like the Prophet Muhammed, so this tactic is repeating) and I am born both within the 13 horoscope or starsign. Like i said this vaccine was a secret, so my brothers in arms (the world) created this myth to conincide with the Maybe Day of Judgment so people would get by suprise. This 13 starsign is called Ophiocus and is a Man (Messiah) wrestling with a snake (the Devilish world and Lucifer).

So, I would like to have seen their faces when all this happened altogether! :D

ANd that is INFP, one day they cant get up to shower and another day they feel like this can rule the world by enthusiasm. For one moment, the world was mine :D.
 

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[MENTION=27574]Cowardly[/MENTION] By that time i knew there would be reprisals for my attack and vaccine (I was a great doctor ;) ), so I said "With all the tortures of hell, if so it must be". Like your signature. I did it out of love <3
 

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[MENTION=27574]Cowardly[/MENTION] By that time i knew there would be reprisals for my attack and vaccine (I was a great doctor ;) ), so I said "With all the tortures of hell, if so it must be". Like your signature. I did it out of love <3

You were a great doctor at 23?
 
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