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Cold war 2.0

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The internet you say? I wonder if Austria will be calling for any social media CEO's to be dragged in front of a government committee? And speaking of the UK scene, any word on the suspect's motive yet? The silence is deafening one week on. Sure hope he wasn't radicalized on the internet.

The truth is that the internet doesn't even matter all that much anymore. Many countries are introducing so many immigrants that for many this is having direct effect on their daily lives and real life dynamic. What is then opening the rift and tensions between locals and immigrants in real life. What evidently leads into radicalization on all sides. Multiple cultures on the same territory has never proven to be overly stable dynamic.
 

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A Canadian in Switzerland is suspected of spying on local North Korean diplomats...for China.
 

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Fresh hope for new talks on Sudan cease-fire


A piece on another major war that is going on under the MSM radar. Myanmar isn't the only such case.

The UN's International Organization for Migration says that almost 10 million people have been displaced in the whole country. And around 25 million people — that is about half of the population — are in urgent need of humanitarian aid.
 

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The truth is that the internet doesn't even matter all that much anymore. Many countries are introducing so many immigrants that for many this is having direct effect on their daily lives and real life dynamic. What is then opening the rift and tensions between locals and immigrants in real life. What evidently leads into radicalization on all sides. Multiple cultures on the same territory has never proven to be overly stable dynamic.
I tend to agree. I was taking a subtle dig at the Musk story and it's implication that social media disinformation is stirring up anti-immigrant sentiments, but foreign radicals use of the internet goes unremarked. Maybe what's stirring up anti-immigrant sentiments is culture clash. But it's not politically correct to say that so it the red herring of social media malfeasance gets thrown about. By not focusing on the root cause (unsustainable immigration levels) one can be assured the problem will not be remedied.
 

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Rights groups slam Bulgaria for banning LGBTQ+ ‘propaganda’


When something passes in parliament with 2/3 support you can be sure that a decent chunk of mainstream also voted for this. Probably some of the left wing parties were also in the mix (in Europe not all left is liberal in nature).

Yeah: getting 2/3 without not so reformed Communists isn't likely scenario. What means that S&D central will again be pissed at it's illiberal eastern member. However if relationships brakes as with Slovaks that means that center left S&D group will continue to lose volume. The east of Europe and liberal left simply aren't natural pair.
 

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The east of Europe and liberal left simply aren't natural pair.
Well, if, as you rightly say, the Eastern European left can be just as illiberal as the Eastern European right while in Western Europe conservatives have mostly given up on open homophobia, misogyny, etc maybe it would be better to say liberalism hasn't really taken a foothold in the East while it is mostly the consensus in the West?
 

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Well, if, as you rightly say, the Eastern European left can be just as illiberal as the Eastern European right while in Western Europe conservatives have mostly given up on open homophobia, misogyny, etc maybe it would be better to say liberalism hasn't really taken a foothold in the East while it is mostly the consensus in the West?

There isn't simplistic answer to this. In the years before that migrant wave in 2015 the trend was different, however with that and this whole story about open doors this started to change. Especially since in that time this whole story about social media and trolls came into play. While the west as a whole didn't really have the resources and will to confront this in the East. Plus when Trump came into play this story wasn't really interesting to anyone, since they had bigger worries on their mind. Next to Trump and Brexit, no one really cared too much about details in places like Romania or Slovakia. However that isn't full story, since east has something that exists in US red states. Which is that capitals and larger cities are fairly liberal despite the national landscape (my Mayor is green). However that in general isn't enough to switch the place as a whole and there are some serious urban/rural divides. However the mass immigration as a topic is actually slowly pushing things away from open liberalism even in bigger cities. After all this is where most of the immigration is going. What is kinda why this topic is often in my posts, since it is a game changer.
 
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