Cold war 2.0

[Virtual ghost]

Petteri Orpo to be Finland’s new prime minister


Another administration that is basically center right + far right coalition. Although here far right is probably too harsh statement for US forum.

In a few weeks will probably see something similar in Spain as well (judging by the polls).

 

[Virtual ghost]

Pro-Russian party banned in Moldova after coup warnings

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[SensEye]

CNN strikes me as very gullible. Given the repeated tendency for the Russian MOD to spew outright lies and disinformation as a matter of course.

When I first saw this video, the obvious question is: why does it start a split second before the explosion? It's impossible to see what, if anything, was around the tank when it exploded. This makes me 95% sure it was a non-event. Even CNN (in a written article) quotes a Russian military blogger saying the tank hit a mine and didn't damage anything.

But CNN drinks the cool aid and gives this "new tactic" way too much oxygen. Validate first. Then report.

 

[ceecee]

CNN strikes me as very gullible. Given the repeated tendency for the Russian MOD to spew outright lies and disinformation as a matter of course.

When I first saw this video, the obvious question is: why does it start a split second before the explosion? It's impossible to see what, if anything, was around the tank when it exploded. This makes me 95% sure it was a non-event. Even CNN (in a written article) quotes a Russian military blogger saying the tank hit a mine and didn't damage anything.

But CNN drinks the cool aid and gives this "new tactic" way too much oxygen. Validate first. Then report.

I think CNN itself is toast. They should have stopped having right wingers on as part of their panels years ago. Now they are just as full of shit as Fox pushing propaganda.

 

[The Cat]

Manufacture outrage. Manufacture Consent.

I think CNN itself is toast. They should have stopped having right wingers on as part of their panels years ago. Now they are just as full of shit as Fox pushing propaganda.

I recall them being just as full of shit as fox back in 2003 they used to say the same things but worded more intellectually and with less volume. Ive always viewed Fox as the manufacture outrage channel, and CNN the manufacture consent channel. MSNBC seems to wish to be the post nut clarity channel that seems to mainly focus on manufacturing hindsight where nothing has been learned from the misfortune, tisking people who cant be tisked, and shaming those who are incapable of feeling shame. Those "big three" all hold the same vibe to my theory on entertainment on television. Keep butts in seats so there's eyes on the commercials, which seems to be the real focus if you try to look past them shaking their keys at us like they think we're babies.

 

[SensEye]

Those "big three" all hold the same vibe to my theory on entertainment on television. Keep butts in seats so there's eyes on the commercials, which seems to be the real focus if you try to look past them shaking their keys at us like they think we're babies.

I agree. But where do you think the majority of people are going to get their news?

Social media, probably, but that is an even bigger sh*t show for the most part. And even when it comes to social media, most content is subject focused (i.e. it's focused on one specific area like politics, war in Ukraine, China issues, abortion issues, whatever). You can find useful information out there, but one really has to dig for it. Most people won't.

There is no good place for what I would refer to as "current affairs" information (as in, what newsworthy events are happening in the world today). There is still no good alternative to the mainstream media as far as I can see. Sad that these mainstream media are such a disappointment. And even when it comes to current affairs, they don't deliver. Most of the networks you mention are mostly US politics and hot button social issues all the time. The most watchable show on CNN is at 2:00 am (CNN newsroom live). It's generally just an anchor person reading the news. Few, if any, talking heads (so more information, less opinion). Banished to the middle of the night when no one is watching.

Alas, information doesn't fan the flames of moral outrage, and doesn't draw those eyeballs. I guess the root cause of the problem is people don't want to be informed, they want to be entertained (i.e. emotionally riled up). It's no wonder society has become as polarized as it is.

 

[The Cat]

I agree. But where do you think the majority of people are going to get their news?

Social media, probably, but that is an even bigger sh*t show for the most part. And even when it comes to social media, most content is subject focused (i.e. it's focused on one specific area like politics, war in Ukraine, China issues, abortion issues, whatever). You can find useful information out there, but one really has to dig for it. Most people won't.

There is no good place for what I would refer to as "current affairs" information (as in, what newsworthy events are happening in the world today). There is still no good alternative to the mainstream media as far as I can see. Sad that these mainstream media are such a disappointment. And even when it comes to current affairs, they don't deliver. Most of the networks you mention are mostly US politics and hot button social issues all the time. The most watchable show on CNN is at 2:00 am (CNN newsroom live). It's generally just an anchor person reading the news. Few, if any, talking heads (so more information, less opinion). Banished to the middle of the night when no one is watching.

Alas, information doesn't fan the flames of moral outrage, and doesn't draw those eyeballs. I guess the root cause of the problem is people don't want to be informed, they want to be entertained (i.e. emotionally riled up). It's no wonder society has become as polarized as it is.

Well Paul is a realestate novelist, who never had time for a wife, and he's talkin to Davey' whos still in the navy, and probably will be for life. And the news report sounds like a carnival and the microphone smells like a beer, and they come to the site and click thumbs up for likes and that's kind how we all got here. And the waitress is practicing politics, as a business man slowly get's stoned, yes they're sharing a drink they call lonliness but its better than dooming alone. Sing us a song you're the talking head, sing us a song tonight, cause we're all in the mood for a melody, and you've got us forgetting our lives.

But there are good news alternatives; but you have to hunt it past the noise and the grift.

 

[ceecee]

I agree. But where do you think the majority of people are going to get their news?

Social media, probably, but that is an even bigger sh*t show for the most part. And even when it comes to social media, most content is subject focused (i.e. it's focused on one specific area like politics, war in Ukraine, China issues, abortion issues, whatever). You can find useful information out there, but one really has to dig for it. Most people won't.

There is no good place for what I would refer to as "current affairs" information (as in, what newsworthy events are happening in the world today). There is still no good alternative to the mainstream media as far as I can see. Sad that these mainstream media are such a disappointment. And even when it comes to current affairs, they don't deliver. Most of the networks you mention are mostly US politics and hot button social issues all the time. The most watchable show on CNN is at 2:00 am (CNN newsroom live). It's generally just an anchor person reading the news. Few, if any, talking heads (so more information, less opinion). Banished to the middle of the night when no one is watching.

Alas, information doesn't fan the flames of moral outrage, and doesn't draw those eyeballs. I guess the root cause of the problem is people don't want to be informed, they want to be entertained (i.e. emotionally riled up). It's no wonder society has become as polarized as it is.

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For straight news, current events, I like NewsNet. You have to stream it but it's great.

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I also like CNN late at night/early in the am reporting. Or CNN International. Also DW, France 24, Al Jazeera, AP News, BBC.. they all offer straight news during off hours too.

And for the amount of people they allow to take a shit in their opinions page, the Wall Street Journal has excellent reporting. And there are still a lot of local news all over the US doing incredible work. Canada’s newly launched Investigative Journalism Foundation is worth a look. https://theijf.org

 

[SensEye]

We're in general agreement. But I don't think any more than a small percentage of the mainstream populace are ever going to motivate sufficiently to seek out their own reliable news sources.

I hope, however, that a growing percentage of people may grow to understand how mainstream media has degenerated. Maybe an adventurous mainstream media network may take a gamble on non-sensationalistic news. Of course, no guarantee such a network, should it come to pass, would not be a ratings dog. But dare to dream.

I was hoping CNN might be trying to turn things around when they ditched the insufferable Cuomo and Lemon. But they seem to have lost momentum since then. Corporate types like to play it safe and not take chances I suppose. CNN is already last in the ratings of the big dogs as far as I know, so they seem to be the most likely to try and change things up.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

The Ukr offensive is not going well.

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[Virtual ghost]

Georgian president pardons jailed journalist after EU, US outcry

Russia is a ‘cancer’ that could destroy the world, Lithuania’s first post-Soviet leader says

Germany and Kazakhstan aim to deepen partnership

Russia must pay to rebuild Ukraine, says Germany

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[Red Herring]

Calling bullshit on the situation in Russia. This smells like mostly a distractive show to justify some shuffles /withdrawels at the frontline and likely an increased use of proper Russian defense forces (maybe fusing the remaining Wagner mercenaries with the troops).

 

[Virtual ghost]

Calling bullshit on the situation in Russia. This smells like mostly a distractive show to justify some shuffles /withdrawels at the frontline and likely an increased use of proper Russian defense forces (maybe fusing the remaining Wagner mercenaries with the troops).

It could be.
However I am not 100% sure that this is the case, so I am not really posting anything about that. It is too early.


The thing is that there seems to be some really bad blood that is going on for months now. Therefore I am not sure this is all just staged. The things is that Russians are starting to face reality that the whole "special military operation" has failed. So in such situations tough guys often turn on each other if they can't get their hands on someone else. The war should have lasted for a week or two and now we are in something like "week 70". Therefore people are starting to realize that the big plan has failed and that they are all cannon fodder. Especially since the initiative is slowly turning to Ukrainian side. Plus economy for most people is probably pretty bad and thus sitting in trenches while the family is starving at home isn't exactly a stimulating environment. So some will snap for sure.


It is too early to tell but there is a chance that all of this is genuine.
Just remember what happened in 1917 and why it happened. The current cards on the table aren't that different.

 

[Virtual ghost]

More on the issue:


Putin in crisis: Wagner chief Prigozhin declares war on Russian military leadership

So something is happening, the volume of the story is too big.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I am watching my local media and forums and it seem that this is quickly turning into a full scale civil war. Especially since Russian army is by decent margin in Ukraine, while Wagner is not. Plus some units are joining Wagner that is opening fire on formal army and is taking over military infrastructure in certain areas. Downtown Moscow is also under a lockdown because to fears that something will happen there. Especially since no one really knows all of the Wagner's positions. Especially since they have none active members.

What we are watching could be the start of much bigger drama than the last year and the half. Civil war in a country with about 10 000 nukes isn't exactly a game without risks.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Ukraine is entering Bakhmut while Belarus is wondering is it now the time for open revolt against their puppet dictator.

Something is telling me that incoming days will be remembered in world's history.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Former Russian prime minister.