Julius_Van_Der_Beak
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- Jul 24, 2008
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No need to apologize. I'm notoriously bad at recognizing sarcasm online (actually, ever since childhood I have had a hard time telling when to take something literally and when to either read something as sarcasm or as a metaphor). My intuition is that this might be supposed to draw a parallel with accusations of antisemitism when the state of Israel (or its current government) is being criticized. Well, I also have a lot of thoughts (and a shitload of accumulated frustration and despair over mankind in general) on that but for the time being I'll not jump to conclusions and just add my previously announced two cents on China.
That was part of it, you are correct. It's not a topic I'm willing to discuss openly because I feel it puts a target on my front and my back, from people who will call me a Nazi and people who don't think I'm hardcore enough; it's a matter of experience and not just conjecture. Hence, I was trying out the idea of bringing the conversation to the surface in other ways, but I know now that this wouldn't work. I'm sorry about that, again.
It's not a topic I'm up for talking about all that much; but it is a topic I want to know more about.
I do think the criticism of "bothsideism" is overused at this point. I want to figure out what is actually happening and that is sometimes extremely difficult. Sometimes somebody will say something, and I'll go "wait, that doesn't ring true" and I'll want to find out what's actually going on as best I can.Guess what, I can be annoyed by certain aspects of several parties without it turning into "bothsideism". That doesn't mean I don't have sympathies and clear leanings. Maybe it's an INTP thing, preferring to see politics as an academic exercise rather than constant foreplay to potential war that could actually get you yourself killed (after all, I wouldn't have to live under Trump (and a summary of his Time magazine interview sent shivers down my spine!!!) and so far the (proto)fascists in my own country are alive and kicking but still held at bay, so it's easy for me to point at the flaws, intellectual laziness and self-righteousness of the American and European left).
What would you say are the flaws of the American left? I'm not saying it so I can jump down your throat. This is of extreme interest to me.