Are You a Feminist? [Blogthings]

[Morfinyon]

Why not actually discuss the test itself or why you specifically identify as such instead of making vague, half-assed zingers to validate your own perceived moral superiority? (most) the people in this thread have made an effort at a civil discussion about the test and interpretation of their scores.

Hmm let's see...
It's a 10 questions long online test that's not only super vague but also super simplistic.
Anyone who's not Davis Aurini would probably agree with the notion that women shouldn't rely on men to take care of them.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Hmm let's see...
It's a 10 questions long online test that's not only super vague but also super simplistic.
Anyone who's not Davis Aurini would probably agree with the notion that women shouldn't rely on men to take care of them.

That's fine, and I agree on the test, but then why bother entering the discussion if you're just going to sit and snipe from your hill with snark and casual disapproval?

 

[ZNP-TBA]

Yeah, that question seemed (deliberately?) vague. I answered 'strongly agree' but I didn't consider "free" might be implied. "Easy" access I am all for.

Access is not the same thing as price. I think anyone with common sense would agree that BC should be made available which means not having some draconian laws banning or prohibiting it from production and sell. That doesn't mean forced externalization of costs.That's where I'm coming from at least.

 

[Morfinyon]

That's fine, and I agree on the test, but then why bother entering the discussion if you're just going to sit and snipe from your hill with snark and casual disapproval?

For my own entertainment and to trigger reactionaries mostly.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

For my own entertainment and to trigger reactionaries mostly.

Any luck yet?

 

[Morfinyon]

Any luck yet?

Only one so far.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Only one so far.

lol, yeah, you really ruined my day.

 

[Morfinyon]

lol, yeah, you really ruined my day.

You apparently were bothered enough to respond to my post lol.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

You apparently were bothered enough to respond to my post lol.

Not bothered so much as befuddled at being labelled a reactionary. ttyl

 

[Typh0n]

I'm a feminist because feminism is epic and triggers reactionaries like nothing else does.

So you admit that you are feminist not because you believe it, but because it triggers people? What do hope to accomplish with this? I mean, know you were only half-serious (at least I hope), but I still don't see why you would say something like that?

 

[Morfinyon]

So you admit that you are feminist not because you believe it, but because it triggers people? What do hope to accomplish with this? I mean, know you were only half-serious (at least I hope), but I still don't see why you would say something like that?

The test was simplistic as fuck and this thread is overall pretty dumb so I made fun of it. Why I would say something like that? For responses like this lmao.
But seriously, no other topic seems to trigger reactionaries more than feminism. The amount of anti-feminist shit out there is unbelievable, and they're almost exclusively talking about the most banal, useless things, like video game feminism for example.

 

[Typh0n]

The test was simplistic as fuck and this thread is overall pretty dumb so I made fun of it. Why I would say something like that? For responses like this lmao.
But seriously, no other topic seems to trigger reactionaries more than feminism. The amount of anti-feminist shit out there is unbelievable, and they're almost exclusively talking about the most banal, useless things, like video game feminism for example.

I think the anti-feminism you speak of is largely anti-third wave feminism, for the record. I don't think many critics of feminism today would deny the progresss made by early feminists or seek to reverse that progress. I think third-wave feminism is largely about appealing to feelings of victimisation in women rather than empowerement. Thats what critics are saying, too. Sure there are some pretty strong reactions against feminism, but the reactions are actually strong on both sides, lol.

 

[Morfinyon]

I think the anti-feminism you speak of is largely anti-third wave feminism, for the record. I don't think many critics of feminism today would deny the progresss made by early feminists or seek to reverse that progress. I think third-wave feminism is largely about appealing to feelings of victimisation in women rather than empowerement. Thats what critics are saying, too. Sure there are some pretty strong reactions against feminism, but the reactions are actually strong on both sides, lol.

Third-wave feminism is basically old-school feminism + focus on queer people and a more analytical understanding of gender roles. It has nothing to do with victimisation and all the more to do with analysing our society so we can improve it. Feminists generally struggle for an equal playing field and a society that has grown past sexism, be it conscious or unconscious sexism. When modern-day feminists analyse society and find sexist structures that ought to be changed, how is that appealing to feelings of victimisation? Also, how is appealing to feelings of victimisation even a bad thing? You realise that feminists and anti-racists have always done that because people ought to be aware of when they are victimised so they can actively fight against their oppressors.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

unconscious sexism

How the fuck do you even quantify or prove that?

 

[Norrsken]

[MENTION=27047]Morfinyon[/MENTION] [MENTION=17729]Typh0n[/MENTION]

This thread is for posting quiz results, so kindly take this someplace else, please.
Thank you.

 

[jixmixfix]

The questions on the test are so vague it's hilarious. The questions also assume that women are always the victims and are lesser or not equal to men.

 

[Evo]

I don't know why those costs should be externalized.

[MENTION=14015]Urarienev[/MENTION] [MENTION=25403]ZNP-TBA[/MENTION]

Paying for one's own birth control (or viagra and vasectomies) goes hand-in-hand with economic and social independence.

Yeah, that question seemed (deliberately?) vague. I answered 'strongly agree' but I didn't consider "free" might be implied. "Easy" access I am all for.

I'm just saying I think it's harder to separate these issues when the burden of birth control seems to lie heavier on females.

There are 20 types of birth control for women, and only 5 for men. Is that fair? Or does that not matter to you?

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

The test was simplistic as fuck and this thread is overall pretty dumb so I made fun of it. Why I would say something like that? For responses like this lmao.
But seriously, no other topic seems to trigger reactionaries more than feminism. The amount of anti-feminist shit out there is unbelievable, and they're almost exclusively talking about the most banal, useless things, like video game feminism for example.

Lol, yes. It's hard not to target Anita though.

 

[Flâneuse]

92% Feminist
You are a total feminist. This doesn't mean you're a man hater (in fact, you may be a man).
You just think that men and women should be treated equally. It's a simple idea but somehow complicated for the world to put into action.

I answered "strongly agree" for all the questions except for the ones that stated women should behave a certain way (rather than having the right to do something) because I think women should be able to follow traditional gender roles if they so choose, even though I don't like their choice and wouldn't want it for myself. (Maybe I just took the questions too literally.)

There is no such thing as a "man's job." It is wrong for men to be given preference for any job position, even if women traditionally aren't in that field.

And I answered "agree" instead of "strongly agree" for this one. No one should be given preference on the sole basis of being a male, and employers should focus on ability level rather than gender, but some jobs are generally better suited for men because of their greater physical strength. When a woman happens to have the skills to do the "man's" job, she should be taken just as seriously as the men.

 

[Coriolis]

I don't know why those costs should be externalized.

"Externalized"? Is that just a fancy way of saying spread across society? If so, then I suppose for the same reason one might want the cost of anything distributed in this manner.

This is obvious but some people short circuit when they realize being an independent person means having to pay for your own shit.

So then independence means paying for the books you check out of the library, or for the police officer who comes to take the report when your car is stolen? See previous comment.

Yeah, that question seemed (deliberately?) vague. I answered 'strongly agree' but I didn't consider "free" might be implied. "Easy" access I am all for.

When cost is a barrier, access is not easy. Otherwise we could just as well say that everyone has easy access to everything not prohibited by law, and some things that are.

And I answered "agree" instead of "strongly agree" for this one. No one should be given preference on the sole basis of being a male, and employers should focus on ability level rather than gender, but some jobs are generally better suited for men because of their greater physical strength. When a woman happens to have the skills to do the "man's" job, she should be taken just as seriously as the men.

That is the point though. Such jobs are not "men's jobs", but rather "big, strong people's jobs". That includes everyone who qualifies, a majority of whom will likely be men.

How the fuck do you even quantify or prove that?

Through studies like those described here and here.