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Are God and the universe fair, loving, just and kind?

LightSun

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“Why do humans ascribe human characteristics to animals, universe and God?

Subjective projections, all of which are false, woefully incomplete. The universe is not loving nor is it unloving or hateful.

The universe is not just nor unjust.

The universe is neither fair or unfair. It just is which I call them ism’s.

The universe is neither kind nor unkind.

Etc…The universe just is. Any subjective term is false. If I was asked an open ended question, “The universe is…” I’d say creative. But that is a projection too.

The universe is neither just creative nor destructive.

When we attach subjective terms in the unknowable we delimit it. We relegate it to a limited aspect, of itself.

That is why God is not a he or she. Nor is God limited by our subjective projections. When we try to describe the inexplicable we limit that which we describe.

They are a the aspect of limited minds trying to describe the inexplicable with mortal terms thus limiting whatever this God force is.

It is a reason I prefer if one is to try and describe God rather as the Great Mystery. The term God has been too contaminated by humankind.” LightSun
 

LightSun

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Those who profess to have faith in a kind, just and loving God or universe, it has been discovered that they are in fact more judgmental and less forgiving. This is according to research and science.

‘Belief In a Just World’

“Belief in a just, loving fair universe, God or the belief in Karma actually on the unconscious level makes people who believe this to be more judgmental.

Rather than less as we’d like and hopefully expect. This is not in any way an attack. Rather it is to shed light and awareness. If Christian’s wish to follow Jesus’s way,

it would behoove them to know about the power of the unconscious. Knowing about the Unconscious, Triggers, Projections and Emotional Reasoning can only help a Christian be a better Christian.

‘Belief In a Just World’

“M. J. Lerner studied the tendency of individuals to believe in a just world. In a just world good things happen to good people, and bad things would happen to bad people.

Much of the research into belief in a just world (BJW) centers around developing measures that indicate the degree to which an individual believes in a just world.

A strong belief in a just world increases the likelihood of "blaming the victim" since such a world view denies the possibility of innocent victims." GRE: Graduate Record Examination, subject test: Psychology, 2016

“The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent.” Carl Sagan

“The universe is indifferent and impartial. It is neither loving nor hateful. The universe is neither fair nor is it unfair. The universe is neither just nor unjust. I call them ‘isms meaning the universe just is.

As a wise friend said once, “We are all dealt a deck of cards. We must play the cards we are dealt.” I am primarily an INFP. I am an idealist and a visionary. I have great faith in the potential of humanity.

I once wrote a Note, “Can we and how do we usher in a new Renaissance. A Renaissance of the human spirit to finally reach our potential.”

This will not occur though realistically. Not until as a wise, and extremely insightful Carl Jung said, “Until we make the unconscious conscious, we shall never evolve. Much less reach our potential.”

Human beings are a projective species. This is fact. Whenever a person uses negative and subjective language, they are projecting their own inner demons. It demonstrates their unhealed and consciously unaware state.

I respect other people’s beliefs. Everyone has the right to believe or not believe as they see fit. For myself, I am not hesitant to state my position. “Nobody is coming to save us.” The New Age people say we are at the dawn of a huge awakening.

Until people realize:
1. We are a projective species.
2. Until people will stop projecting their inner (phenomenological) subjective universe unto other human beings, we shall never awake.” LightSun

 

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LightSun

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I shared two posts on Neil deGrasse Tyson page. I’ll give Part I. and then afterward Part II.

Page One:

Quotation
“The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent.” Carl Sagan

Quotation
“The more I look at the universe, the more I am convinced there’s no God.” Neil deGrasse Tyson

Quotation
“I believe the simplest explanation is, there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe and for that, I am extremely grateful.” Stephen Hawking (1942-2018).

“The universe (God) is neither kind nor unkind. The universe is neither loving nor unloving. The universe is neither fair nor unfair. The universe is neither just nor unjust. The universe is impartial and indifferent.” LightSun

“I’m with Carl Sagan, Brian Cox, Neil deGrasse Tyson and Stephen Hawking. Much of the turmoil of the human race is the cognitive distortion called “Emotional Reasoning.”

No sane, rational creator, or a cosmic overlord would create such a fallible species. This is how I describe Emotional Reasoning.

“Just because I passionately think, feel and believe in something does not necessitate that it is true. Not unless it is proven by hard science research methodology.

Then have those results replicated in the here and now.” Otherwise it is your opinion unsubstantiated. It is a belief with no validity. It is in the person’s unconscious belief system which is projected unto others.” Paul Johnson

“What is death?”

“We each have one chance in life to do the best we can. Once we invariably die, we will not survive in a heaven that lasts trillions of years. We are supposed to work together and make this a better world.

That’s how it’s designed, we live, and try making this a better world than the one we ourselves grew up in.

Then it’s the next generations turn to build upon what we in this generation accomplished.” LightSun
 

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QuAA

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Absolutely positively not. There are babies being raped, ffs.

Please quite worshipping your false God and realize that it is up to you.
 
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