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Hey everyone, this is a duplicate post of one that is in my blog. I have posted the one in my blog for safe-keeping (so I can easily find it again), but I've reposted it here because I am also looking for opinions. I specifically would like help with simplifying the S/N dichotomy. It's the one I've always struggled the most to define in a simple manner...and the one I have almost never been able to identify in other people. It isn't perfect, but here you go:
"So over the years I've tried to come up a way to simplify the MBTI dichotomies. Sure, you can use one word to describe them right now (thinking, feeling, judging, perceiving, etc.), but I don't find these words useful. I've been trying to come up with a way to very easily type other people...and I think I've come close to cracking it. Also, I could've sworn I posted this somewhere else on the forums, but I can't seem to find it. If I have posted it before, the new addition is the discovery of the J/P simplification.
I/E - low vs. high energy levels
This one can be a bit tricky to spot because you have to compare the person to other people in the same age group. So my grandpa might seem like an introvert on his own, but if you compare him to other people of his age, he is a definite extravert. This also means that very young introverts can appear more extraverted than older introverts for example.
S/N - ????
T/F - task-oriented vs. people-oriented
This one may be defined improperly. Under Beren's interaction styles system, task-orientation vs. people-orientation are NOT evenly tied to T and F. In that system, STs and NJs are task oriented whereas SFs and NPs are people oriented. Intuitively, this doesn't entirely work for me (though I do like using and discussing her system). So I've left it as T = task-oriented (preferring to focus on objects/things) and F = people-oriented (preferring to focus on relationships/living beings). I can elaborate on this if needed.
J/P - type A personality vs. type B personality
Edit 2: Whoops...meant to type that I meant for this topic to SOLELY DISCUSS DICHOTOMIES! Sorry for any confusion.
This is my newest thought in the simplification. Whether or not MBTI intends for it to come across it this way, I've realized that type descriptions lean toward this sort of a description for J types vs. P types. For those unaware, the type A vs. type B personality system is a (flawed) system that states that there are two types of people in the world...type A is more high strung and driven whereas type B is more relaxed/laid back. It also helps me to realize why I seem to align more with the MBTI J type, but the big five's unstructured type. MBTI emphasizes more of the distinction I have written about above, whereas the big five simply uses organized vs. messy for its dichotomy."
One of the things about this simplification of the J/P dichotomy is that it may be biased toward typing more P types than there really are.
So it's not perfect, but what are your thoughts? Thanks!
Edit: So I think this type A vs. type B business will be able to determine the extreme Js, but not the more mild Js. I also think that no P types will accidentally be typed as Js in this system. So it is slightly biased in one direction.
"So over the years I've tried to come up a way to simplify the MBTI dichotomies. Sure, you can use one word to describe them right now (thinking, feeling, judging, perceiving, etc.), but I don't find these words useful. I've been trying to come up with a way to very easily type other people...and I think I've come close to cracking it. Also, I could've sworn I posted this somewhere else on the forums, but I can't seem to find it. If I have posted it before, the new addition is the discovery of the J/P simplification.
I/E - low vs. high energy levels
This one can be a bit tricky to spot because you have to compare the person to other people in the same age group. So my grandpa might seem like an introvert on his own, but if you compare him to other people of his age, he is a definite extravert. This also means that very young introverts can appear more extraverted than older introverts for example.
S/N - ????
T/F - task-oriented vs. people-oriented
This one may be defined improperly. Under Beren's interaction styles system, task-orientation vs. people-orientation are NOT evenly tied to T and F. In that system, STs and NJs are task oriented whereas SFs and NPs are people oriented. Intuitively, this doesn't entirely work for me (though I do like using and discussing her system). So I've left it as T = task-oriented (preferring to focus on objects/things) and F = people-oriented (preferring to focus on relationships/living beings). I can elaborate on this if needed.
J/P - type A personality vs. type B personality
Edit 2: Whoops...meant to type that I meant for this topic to SOLELY DISCUSS DICHOTOMIES! Sorry for any confusion.
This is my newest thought in the simplification. Whether or not MBTI intends for it to come across it this way, I've realized that type descriptions lean toward this sort of a description for J types vs. P types. For those unaware, the type A vs. type B personality system is a (flawed) system that states that there are two types of people in the world...type A is more high strung and driven whereas type B is more relaxed/laid back. It also helps me to realize why I seem to align more with the MBTI J type, but the big five's unstructured type. MBTI emphasizes more of the distinction I have written about above, whereas the big five simply uses organized vs. messy for its dichotomy."
One of the things about this simplification of the J/P dichotomy is that it may be biased toward typing more P types than there really are.
So it's not perfect, but what are your thoughts? Thanks!
Edit: So I think this type A vs. type B business will be able to determine the extreme Js, but not the more mild Js. I also think that no P types will accidentally be typed as Js in this system. So it is slightly biased in one direction.