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[Frosty]

I can honestly say I dont believe IQ to be that important.

My cousin, who I think would probably test lower on an IQ test than I would (because Im just a good ‘test taker’) is a beautiful artist who makes things I could never dream of making. She sees things- learns in a different way than me. And if we were given a ‘drawing’ contest- she would outscore me no question.

What I am saying is I honestly believe- there are sooo many different types of intelligence- and IQ, its just one of them.

 

[Norexan]

Reseachers found that these 5 types are most likely to have iQ of genius:
1. ENFP - without match
2. INTP
3. ISTJ
4. INFP
5. ENTP

*total numbers of genius, not % by type*

So INTP is clear winner in % score (numbers of genius/total numbers).
Also male xNFP has a extreme high chance to be genius since this types are not common in male population.

 

[k9a4b]

I just came here to brag about my 99 percentile iq. istp power

 

[Tina&Jane]

My job requires me to give IQ tests and in most cases I find the pattern of strengths and weaknesses in someone's profile to be more telling and helpful than the IQ score. Some people score well in some areas, but bomb others, and those extreme scores will pull the overall IQ down. You also always have to account for other factors that might influence scores, like mood/emotional state, motivation, effort, etc. The only time I really focus on IQ is if I'm determining if someone is gifted or intellectually disabled, which require specific cutoffs. But really the scores are just numbers, and while they will certainly have some impact on how a person functions, they can never fully account for the whole individual or their personality. Someone may be a genius according to their IQ, but if they never really do anything with that potential, or expect admiration, respect, or success based solely on that one fact, then I'm not sure what good it actually serves. You can get all these things with an average, below average, or even low IQ depending how each is being defined.

 

[Mr Kovacs]

Hey Tina and or Jane Do you also do any other tests and which and how much is the IQ rest conditioned with social/cultural factors? Which tests provide the best data in the context of workplace success in your opinion. Thanks

 

[rav3n]

Reseachers found that these 5 types are most likely to have iQ of genius:
1. ENFP - without match
2. INTP
3. ISTJ
4. INFP
5. ENTP

*total numbers of genius, not % by type*

So INTP is clear winner in % score (numbers of genius/total numbers).
Also male xNFP has a extreme high chance to be genius since this types are not common in male population.

The study results are as follows, so your list isn't accurate, in that you've forgotten ISFJs and messed with the order.

But if you adjust for percentage of the population, all Ns are over represented in this study for the gifted population where the over-representation order is that Is exceed Es with INTPs at the top of the list for over-representation for all Ns, and Ts exceed Fs, and Ps exceed Js except for INFPs who take third instead of second place behind INTJs.

INTP 3.4
INTJ 2.87
INFP 2.68
INFJ 2.67
ENTP 2.32
ENFP 2.04
ENTJ 1.49
ENFJ 1.26

----------------------
ISTJ 0.99
ISTP 0.78
ESTP 0.49
ISFJ 0.4
ISFP 0.4
ESFP 0.28
ESTJ 0.26
ESFJ 0.24

But...this study was done at a liberal arts college so this too would skew the results.

 

[Norexan]

The study results are as follows, so your list isn't accurate, in that you've forgotten ISFJs and messed with the order.

But if you adjust for percentage of the population, all Ns are over represented in this study for the gifted population where the over-representation order is that Is exceed Es with INTPs at the top of the list for over-representation for all Ns, and Ts exceed Fs, and Ps exceed Js except for INFPs who take third instead of second place behind INTJs.

INTP 3.4
INTJ 2.87
INFP 2.68
INFJ 2.67
ENTP 2.32
ENFP 2.04
ENTJ 1.49
ENFJ 1.26

----------------------
ISTJ 0.99
ISTP 0.78
ESTP 0.49
ISFJ 0.4
ISFP 0.4
ESFP 0.28
ESTJ 0.26
ESFJ 0.24

But...this study was done at a liberal arts college so this too would skew the results.

It is not about %. It is about numbers of genius (N) who declare themselves as one of these types. Read again table...

1. ENFP 746
2. INTP 582
3. ENTP 548
4. INFP 503
5. INTJ 364
6. ISTJ 330

>300

Total numbers of people who are one type is still not very accurate so the % values probably is not matching the reality.

Obviously, I read another study but still it is very similar result...

 

[rav3n]

It is not about %. It is about numbers of genius (N) who declare themselves as one of these types. Read again table...

1. ENFP 746
2. INTP 582
3. ENTP 548
4. INFP 503
5. INTJ 364
6. ISTJ 330

>300

Total numbers of people who are one type is still not very accurate so the % values probably is not matching the reality.

Obviously, I read another study but still it is very similar result...

You don't understand weighting and geographic limitations in studies? Results should be controlled for these factors.

 

[Norexan]

You don't understand weighting and geographic limitations in studies? Results should be controlled for these factors.

If you test or study each of 1.000.000 people in just one city then I would believe in % numbers.

 

[rav3n]

If you test or study each of 1.000.000 people in just one city then I would believe in % numbers.

This makes zero sense.

 

[Norexan]

This makes zero sense.

What is the SOURCE of study is the most important. <- this is where you get informations
And then you ask yourself...
Can this information be useful for tracking on large scale?

 

[rav3n]

What is the SOURCE of study is the most important. <- this is where you get informations
And then you ask yourself...
Can this information be useful for tracking on large scale?

Misinformation base on some theory which make some enthusiasts IS NOT enough clear information.

In other words, you don't understand weighting and geographic limitations (geographic in terms of a liberal arts college vs Harvard vs MIT).

Lemme try again. Refer to above reference to geographic limitations. What types are most likely to attend liberal arts colleges vs Harvard vs MIT?

 

[Norexan]

In other words, you don't understand weighting and geographic limitations (geographic in terms of a liberal arts college vs Harvard vs MIT).

Lemme try again. Refer to above reference to geographic limitations. What types are most likely to attend liberal arts colleges vs Harvard vs MIT?

You can pick one town over 30.000 people and study all of them and another town for with same population. If the results of each town would be the same you can speak whatever you want.

 

[rav3n]

You can pick one town over 30.000 people and study all of them and another town for with same population. If the results of each town would be the same you can speak whatever you want.

 

[Norexan]

I think you don't understand me. When I said SOURCE (read carefully) I mean "Is the source of these results city, town or some particular source like prestige college? Where are these results come from? What is the source?" Of course if the source of information is prestige college a lot people will have high iQ. But usually colleges don't graduated by students with high IQ but only those with enough persistence. High iQ or intelligence is mostly useless factor for college system.

 

[Tina&Jane]

Hey Tina and or Jane Do you also do any other tests and which and how much is the IQ rest conditioned with social/cultural factors? Which tests provide the best data in the context of workplace success in your opinion. Thanks

I also do personality/behavior testing! The personality testing is very different from tests like the MBTI or Enneagram; usually it's just parents and teachers filling out ratings scales that look at areas like anxiety, aggression, hyperactivity, attention problems, interpersonal skills, etc. I can't really speak to the tests in the context of the workplace because I only work in schools, but if a student's IQ is lower then I would generally expect them to struggle more both in the classroom and later in the workplace. But again, I don't think any test can ever truly predict success or determine what someone is capable of. You can't discount motivation, hard work, and effort, and with the proper support even someone with a lower IQ can be successful, it just might look different than another person's idea of what that is.

In terms of social/cultural factors, the tests should always have been previously tested with the population you're using it for. So an assessment that was developed and tested with English speakers from the United States would probably not be the best test to use with a non-native English speaker unfamiliar with US culture. Ideally, you would also have a Bilingual evaluator who speaks the same language administering the assessment, which should have been previously tested and normed with that population.

Hope this helps! (also sorry for the abysmally late reply...)

 

[Maou]

I think INTJ and INTP are the smartest types.

INTP are better at knowing things, INTJ are better at applying things.

I know plenty of INTP, that don't do a damn thing with their intelligence.

 

[Blackmail!]

Honestly, I don't think that IQ really measures intelligence, or whichever way you call it.
However, a neuropsychologist urgently advised me to take the WAIS IV test, just to determine if ever I may have some autistic traits (that's weird to assume this, since I'm clearly extrovert).
And the result I received today... well... it said "no, you're not an Aspie...", but clearly something else (Total IQ = 151/160).

I fucking don't know what this means.

 

[Tina&Jane]

Honestly, I don't think that IQ really measures intelligence, or whichever way you call it.
However, a neuropsychologist urgently advised me to take the WAIS IV test, just to determine if ever I may have some autistic traits (that's weird to assume this, since I'm clearly extrovert).
And the result I received today... well... it said "no, you're not an Aspie...", but clearly something else (Total IQ = 151/160).

I fucking don't know what this means.

That does seem weird that the neuropsych gave you the WAIS to try and rule in/out Asperger's. It's purely a cognitive test and wouldn't be used to determine Autism, although those with Autism may perform lower in certain areas. Was that the only test that was given to you? Did the neuropsyc specify what that "something else" was? An IQ of 150 means you scored better than 99% of the people that took the test, meaning you have very superior cognitive abilities!

 

[LucieCat]

IQ measures a form of intelligence. It doesn't capture the whole picture. I've read that INTPs and INTJs tend to score highest on it. It could be that those personalities trend towards those forms. And other personality types will trend to other forms. For example, ESFJs and ENFJs tend to be people with a high level of social intelligence due to dominant Fe.

There isn't really a way to truly capture intelligence because there are so many forms. IQ is an attempt at it, but not the end all be all.

I'm an ENFP and I was tested to have an IQ of about 123 in my early teens. I was told that it would increase a few points once I reached adulthood. That puts me pretty firmly in above average. However, my spatial component of the testing was extremely low, which lowered the score.