lulabelle
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- sp/sx
I would like to be ISTP, they seem like very "cool", aware people, better task focus than INTPs and seem to fit in better socially.
I am very skeptical of these claims, the way introverts and extroverts are defined is likely to be erroneous in those studies, calling a friend or walking with a friend has little to do with cognitive extroversion.
All extroversion means is that you are oriented towards the object, there are many introvert "types" that would easily be mistaken for extroverts by these colloquial notions. Carl Jung described himself is a very sociable person but he clearly categorized himself as a introvert(likely introverted thinking dominant) while he described Freud as more socially reclusive but a clear extrovert(more specifically extroverted thinking dominant).
I suspect what these studies are really measuring is emotional stability/neuroticism as an independent personality dimension, a shy anxious person is being lumped in as an introvert when this is more to do with social anxiety. You might argue that social anxiety is correlated with introversion but it seems more like introversion is being equated to being socially anxious/reclusive/negative moods, ect., I mean if a lot of researchers can't even define introverts and extroverts right their studies and the conclusions they produce are crappy from the start. All these studies are telling me is that people who are more socially isolated tend to be less happy, but that is a very different beast than the introversion/extroversion Jung was talking about.
There are a lot of socially immature/awkward extroverts out there that would be erroneously classified as introverts by these studies.
Did you see the keirsey study? These are people who have self-typed as the various types... there is a strong correlation beterrn intreoversion and extroversion in the chart, which I have witnessed myself, experienced myself etc
I don't think you can entirely separate socially isolated from introvert, however... extroverts are way more likely to be around people and have a social system of support. You can't just pretend that there would likely be no correlation... I've seen it in my life, I"ve seen it on threads in the ENFP sub versus INFP sub and in all the subs of the introverted type and its extroverted counterpart. There is no doubt that introverts seem to experience more isolation and social anxiety than their extroverted counterparts. This is a conclusion that has come up again and again. I find it hard to believe that there is no truth to it.