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Actually, yes. INTJs do it all the time, to a fault, to the point that they believe they have no emotions, or believe that they aren't influenced by them. To be sure, when the emotions are strong enough, there is no "stepping away," but it is certainly possible to cultivate a level of detachment that allows one to do so for most issues.I was reading this thread of 'what do you like about feelers' and one complaint is that there is a tendency to not be logical in arguments, make emotional appeals, or base their decisions on their emotions.
So heres a question: Do you think its possible to actually step away/remove ourselves from 'emotions' when looking at an issue?
To say "I am being more rational than you" is not a rational thing to say. It is not an objective observation, but a subjective, personal criticism.This line: "I am being more rational than you" - may be an illusion for your rationality is just a set of learned ways of interacting that appear to lack emotion,
Hardly. This is the one statement you make that I believe is absolutely false, unless you define yourself into tautology, by saying that "wanting to be objective and rational" is an emotional/moral desire.HOWEVER! are not all decisions/arguments ultimately moral and emotional ones?
TO put it in a strong way: I think people are fooling themselves if they think in life they are making 'clean' decisions, 'unemotional' arguments, or undertaking entire 'rational' courses of action.
I believe it is a matter of degree. Individuals have varying degrees of skill with respect to detaching oneself from one's emotional biases. Most of the social problems of INTJs derive from being very good at this. Also, certain matters are more obviously fully objective considerations than others, e.g., verifying objective facts often has no emotional content whatsoever, while deciding whether you want to say "yes" to a marriage proposal would have very few objective considerations.
What you say is not without a degree of truth, that many people fool themselves. But you will be fooling yourself if you apply the principle to all people. There is a tendency on the part of F's to misread NTs in this regard, imputing motives based on one's own values, rather than recognizing that some people actually make decisions based on factual considerations and minimize if not altogether eliminate the emotional considerations.