What kind of ENFP consciously wants to take over the world?
Not me.
You are not all ENFPs, I don't remember voting to make you representative. I'd happily take over the world - there's a bunch of people in charge in a few particular countries that I'd really like to get rid off. This will generally lead to better outcomes for everyone.
I think healthy ENFP idealism would be driven by Dominant Ne/Auxilliary Fi -- motivating, encouraging, and inspiring people to see the possibilities of human progress.
Sure.
It wouldn't be run by Dominant Ne/Tertiary Te -- coercing and manipulating people and systems in order to ensure that humans progress.
I fail to understand how the above is incompatible with good Te and why Ne/Te leads to coercion/manipulation necessarily. The normative statements are yours. Inspiring/coercing are two sides of the same coin. Inspiring implies the use of motivational force and coercion the use of disincentives. Ne/Fi is not necessarily inspiring and Ne/Te is not necessarily coercive. This is pure conjecture on your part. Either can be used to convince people of the importance of your goals.
Fi is geared towards evaluating what's important for oneself, Te is geared towards the outside world - in organizing thought and structures. This implies Fi and Te are both important functions and should BOTH be developed well for a healthy, functioning ENFP. I'll start with first problematizing why just Ne/Fi with a weak Te wouldn't be a good outcome and then argue about them both being important for different spheres of activity.
An ENFP with a strong Fi but weak Te:
Would look incredibly selfish because personal values while deceptively resembling principles, they are not the same. What stops Fi from manipulating people to do their will? Fi reflects an individual's hierarchy of outcomes - this may not reflect what's best for the common good or even for other people immediately surrounding the Fi user. Don't you need well developed Fe here to consider other people's well-being/feelings? Indeed. Well developed Te helps keep selfish Fi in check too. Te helps organize our thought process and decision making in a way where we are able to apply broader principles of what is ethical or unethical not just (values) what we believe to be important based on personal ethics. The latter could go horribly wrong and is not a completely reliable compass. Te is pretty important because even in the realm of the personal, dispassionate thought is important in decision making that affects other people. How do we do this without good Te?
Any ENFP who thinks they are using Te really effectively should ask someone they trust to give their honest opinion.
I think it's always a good idea to get the opinions of well trusted friends. However, this is more a projection of your experience than a truism you apply to all ENFPs. YOU may have used Te ineffectively and found that you work better with Fi in charge - that's fine but to extrapolate from that to every other ENFP's experience is strange. At the end of the day, the idea of you trusting other people's opinions over your own sense of what is right and wrong reflects weak Fi, in my opinion.
The trusted friend will probably say it isn't working as well as the ENFP thinks it is.
Thanks for the mindreading.
Besides, if you are making good decisions and working well with others, that is your Ne and Fi working well together.
Why would you credit Te with that????
See above. Little evidence to only credit Ne/Fi with good decision making besides your own personal experience. I can understand the reasoning behind developing Fi to keep Ne in check. It's an important function for ENFPs and that makes sense. However, the extension to keeping the other functions weaker is on very shaky ground.
I guess I am confused as other personality types are driven to positions of power for various reasons.
So why is an ENFP working to move into a position scary? We have goals we would like to see realized...we need to be someplace where we can effectively accomplish them.
Thank you. I also get what you are saying - it's not literally about taking over the world, it's about having a function that actually helps in the workplace, particularly when we may be in positions of authority. Being in such a position implies more than ever that we be fair and consistent in our decision making. This implies the use of principles in a largely dispassionate manner. There are always exceptions but the best people in these positions, in my opinion, are empathetic (Fe) but equally to everyone and know how stick with a set of dispassionate rules of behavior (Te) -- shouldn't ENFPS aspire to develop these functions or should we not aspire to positions of authority at all??
I have asked on several threads about is using our innate talents or what we learn to influence others "evil" or manipulative? I never really get a clear answer. Many other types besides ENFPs do this innately-so why is it wrong for an enfp to do this?
Monster - I think you and I are referring to the same question. Why is Fi driven influence inspirational whereas Te driven manipulative? Either could be selfish in its goals.
Ne/Fi are best helped by good Fe in the interpersonal realm and Ne/Fi are best helped by Te in the professional realm. With only Ne/Fi doing the leading, I imagine a person who is convinced of their personal value system without basis in a logical argument or consideration of broader ethical principles. The former will find it easy to excuse all sorts of unethical behavior because of a weak understanding of the consequences of one's actions on other people. The latter, in the workplace, would be apt to make decisions based on an individual value system and a very personalized perception of the world around them, thus leading to unfair and inconsistent decision making in the workplace. Rather disastrous.
Some healthy ENFPs have better developed Te than Fi. I relate to this and know my choice of profession influenced this. Some have better developed Fi than Te. Fi is being connected with one's own feelings and most useful in organizing one's own goals. I can see how not being well connected with Fi can be harmful just as having weakly developed Te can be harmful. This is one of many factors that makes us a varied group of people within a type. This does not necessarily imply a healthy or unhealthy person.