This is very interesting; it explains why I mistook my boyfriend, who is an ESTJ sp/sx, for an introvert for a very long time. At first I had a vibe that he's an extrovert, but getting to know him better, I found out he's got a huge need for alone time (he self-describes himself as a "loner"), which made me sure he's an introvert even though his Te seemed as strong as his Si and his Ne was also suspiciously high. But later it dawned on me that Te is unmistakeably his dom-function, while Ne is the other function through witch he connects with the world. Also, he seems to really enjoy "organizing" random people, and even though he's not too "social" in the common sense of the word, he does like being in the mix of friends - in fact, he seems more comfortable when he's among his not-too-close friends than when he's alone with me. -_-;;; (I'm glad his extroverstion clarified it a little...) He's clearly energizied by the outside world, which doesn't mean he has to love partying etc. I think it must be kind of strange for an extrovert to be a social last, though - it's sort of a paradox.
this is a very interesting notion. estj sp first. i know an estj who i'd speculate is 8w9. i'd put him as sp/so. it's very interesting for me to consider.
It's frustrating. And it makes it very easy for certain people to hurt me, if they choose to. I have been hurt this way many times, so it makes me conscious of not getting too deep into contact unless I can see a good end. No matter how much I'm drawn to someone, if I get a clear indicator that the relationship won't go well, I'll limit my contact on purpose in the interest of practicality.
But I have found several amazing connections, and they're always like finding oases in the desert. And even better because they're rare. Right now, I'm thinking "there are many people out there to unite with (whether short or long term), and I have a chance to meet some of them."
I'm helped a bit by my T preference, so although I love intimate connection, my true love is realizing ideas. If I were going to describe a perfect situation, it would be someone I can connect with intimately and realize ideas with. I don't know if I'll find a partner like this, but it sounds like bliss.
how do you describe the differences for an sp last entp when moving on? you do get hurt, or take it to heart, more than most other entps? and the w6 creates a strong emphasis on the vulnerability of others, where it is easier to recognize what is difficult to directly address in yourself?
i think i know one entp 7w6 sx/sp. she was in my rhetoric class and we immediately hit it off. she got nervous when doing a presentation, which i found odd, bc she has absolutely no problem making an ass of herself, and she can think on her feet really well. yet if i compare the experience to myself, and tho i admittely am less comfortable free-wheeling with no direction bc my organization is based on Fe not Ne, and tho it is perhaps as a result easier for me to be disarming naturally and unconsciously but perhaps less consciously/strategically so, the sp to me just creates this limit that feels threatening and stressful. i can communicate as openly or loosely with one person as anyone else can. with two to three i am still very free. in a class of 10 i'm ok, especially if i have some strong foundation with another person. in a class of 20, i get nervous when i speak in front of them. why- i keep asking myself this question. but i think it's just the sp is constantly worried about over-extended, managing all the Fe impressions of others,, recognizing the quality of story as it is happening, etc but with a strong sx dom getting to where you want to go (kind of impatiently) energy.
i also resonate with the beginning paragraph of self-limiting. i started a thread on so/sx bc i tend to have insecurities with so/sx. and i realized much of this is that if i were to read myself into the situation, i would see problems that would cause hurt everywhere. i feel like i am learning that i need to limit myself purposefully as well, that allowing relationships to go unchecked may be a learning experience but may not suit my best interests or those i care about. it's not a problem for everyone, it's a problem for me bc it's difficult to be half-in or half-assedly out. i don't naturally enjoy distance, i want to destroy it. i am not content and i always desire more.
this tension is really fucking frustrating. bc this kind of energy is what draws me to people (the world) at all. others are exciting in that they can catalyze my energies, i can identify something i want, and then the experience of exploring and attaining those goals, and developing new and unexpected ones, keeps me unbored, passionate, etc. balancing being driven by your own desiring core and being balanced, grounded, more earthy and capable of slowness, being wise, etc, is a principle problem i will face the rest of my life. it's like, i go to tai chi, then i hope to be able to work faster and learn more and get more done, absorb more, go faster and faster- it's always just about those goddamned steroids, in a figurative sense.