Mal12345
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- MBTI Type
- IxTP
- Enneagram
- 5w4
- Instinctual Variant
- sx/sp
Si as a Hidden Agenda, AKA the tertiary in the INTP and INFP : mbti
I'll copy/paste the parts I identify with here:
“To be healthy†does not mean what it means to those that are consciously aware of this desire in themselves. “To be healthy†is characterized by a warped, uneven, inconsistent interpretation of what this means and how to achieve it. A common characteristic of lower level Si is a poor body image or disconnect with bodily perceptions. There is often over-compensation in all matters related to this function as well. The first aspect that we can consider here is that HA Si looks to others to model and imitate other’s behavior and appearance to a certain degree, but just can’t. INxPs are often slight in build do to their Si, yet feel inadequate and desire to bulk up by exercising and lifting weights. The problem is that they are horrified by the prospect of stepping into the foreign land of the gym, exposing themselves and their body to the on-look of others more developed in this sense. This hits them in several ways from an Si perspective. First there is the body issue, then there is doing it in an unfamiliar environment, then there is the difficulty of building and sticking to a routine. An INxP is more likely to buy some dumb-bells from a self-checkout line and find a work-out routine from YouTube videos and do it in the privacy of their own home, until they give up a few weeks later.
In the matter of appearance, there is this odd contradiction here as both types are fiercely independent when it comes to their dominant Ti or Fi, yet desire to blend in and assimilate in certain sensory respects after perhaps a period of failing at pulling off standing out in appearance. They may act like a chameleon when it comes to appearance, mimicking the way others dress, maybe trying to be a little more put together than quite a few other types. It is as if they are hyper-conscious of dressing appropriately for the role they are entering. Developed tertiary Si types would be mortified by wearing sweat pants in public or a short-sleeve button-up shirt with a tie, as they were once told that it makes them look like Dwight Shrute. Under-developed types may not have this awareness, but I think that is more the domain of ENxPs. Maybe it is a strict personal code that you never wear white socks with black shoes, because someone made fun of you for doing so once years ago. All of this is ultimately motivated by one’s inferior function.
I very much agree with the first paragraph, and it also describes an INFP friend I grew up with. The author of this is like a mind-reader. As for the second paragraph, I am self-conscious about how I dress in public.
Very nice website. I'll research it more later.
I'll copy/paste the parts I identify with here:
“To be healthy†does not mean what it means to those that are consciously aware of this desire in themselves. “To be healthy†is characterized by a warped, uneven, inconsistent interpretation of what this means and how to achieve it. A common characteristic of lower level Si is a poor body image or disconnect with bodily perceptions. There is often over-compensation in all matters related to this function as well. The first aspect that we can consider here is that HA Si looks to others to model and imitate other’s behavior and appearance to a certain degree, but just can’t. INxPs are often slight in build do to their Si, yet feel inadequate and desire to bulk up by exercising and lifting weights. The problem is that they are horrified by the prospect of stepping into the foreign land of the gym, exposing themselves and their body to the on-look of others more developed in this sense. This hits them in several ways from an Si perspective. First there is the body issue, then there is doing it in an unfamiliar environment, then there is the difficulty of building and sticking to a routine. An INxP is more likely to buy some dumb-bells from a self-checkout line and find a work-out routine from YouTube videos and do it in the privacy of their own home, until they give up a few weeks later.
In the matter of appearance, there is this odd contradiction here as both types are fiercely independent when it comes to their dominant Ti or Fi, yet desire to blend in and assimilate in certain sensory respects after perhaps a period of failing at pulling off standing out in appearance. They may act like a chameleon when it comes to appearance, mimicking the way others dress, maybe trying to be a little more put together than quite a few other types. It is as if they are hyper-conscious of dressing appropriately for the role they are entering. Developed tertiary Si types would be mortified by wearing sweat pants in public or a short-sleeve button-up shirt with a tie, as they were once told that it makes them look like Dwight Shrute. Under-developed types may not have this awareness, but I think that is more the domain of ENxPs. Maybe it is a strict personal code that you never wear white socks with black shoes, because someone made fun of you for doing so once years ago. All of this is ultimately motivated by one’s inferior function.
I very much agree with the first paragraph, and it also describes an INFP friend I grew up with. The author of this is like a mind-reader. As for the second paragraph, I am self-conscious about how I dress in public.
Very nice website. I'll research it more later.