No no, I was just explaining why my original post was missing, 'cuz I got all chick-shit! I'm caught now
I don't think that how nature made us is a guideline for our actions, I think nature
determines our actions. What you call "value" is simply what benefits the individual, the species, the group... though it's hard to say what are the 'right' values for the right time, and our species is so successful because it has units like us working to figure out the appropriate values. To survive, to grow, to spread. Why? Because growing and spreading is succesful. Not because it in itself has value, simply because the parts of nature that aren't built for that tend to get gobbled up by the ones that are. In a way maybe we're here not because of our species strengths, virtues or "values," as much as the lack of those in competitors.
Yes. That is what is refered to as enlightenment, kesho, satori, entering the stream, the eternal tao from which 10,000 things arise and 10,000 things subside. The void. Nirvana. It's not non-existance, it's just... observing and accepting. That needs no value.
Who said you shouldn't avoid it? You can't avoid it, it's the way you're wired and you'll feel guilty whether you want to or not. Unless you're a psychopath, and then you'd have no conciseness. I'm not saying "should" to anything, that's the whole point of why realizing the meaning of meaning sets you free. All the "shoulds" go away. And the fear, like, "but I'll lose my moral compass and murder" goes away too, because you simply see that you are what you are and that is not what you are or have ever been. Or if is what you are, you're probably not on this site having this discussion anyway. You're too busy with Murder.
There you go with those "shoulds" again. There's nothing "should" about it. Those things are a problem
to us because they seriously disrupt lives, and the individuals, the groups; so the society reacts to that, just like if I poke an ant hive they'll come pouring out to defend themselves. If it is not in the units' nature to defend, then the unit will thrive. I don't see the need for "value" in that, except that we survive only because we place value on survival.
Therefor, society sets a subjective value, a
should of "not kill in this instance" because that moral code is a successful operating mode that's been developed over millions of years. But there's nothing universal or objective about it, nor need there be.
If it matters to you, you'll do something about it based on your proximity and ability to influence or react to the situation. If it matters to society, then soicety will impose a rule, a
should, but if you're looking for a Grand Universal Meaning to shy one should or shouldn't kill, or when the appropriate time to kill is for whom... no, it does not matter. Not on anything close to that scale.