In real life and on this forum many NFs said that dispassionate approach scares them a lot below the surface.
Depends on the context. I really enjoy the company of thinkers, and find that they will lead me to things I've overlooked with this "dispassionate" approach, leading them to be of immense value. Many times my greatest insights have been through a combination of logic and feeling. I am only scared of dispassion in personal affairs, like how does the thinker feel about me? They can say over and over they care, but emotionally not show they care?
They say it is scary because if there is no their emotional intensity everything would be quite boring and nothing would have any real point or beauty. So life would be quite horrble existance if it were like this.
Try to imagine being in a world of only feelers, where you could not expand on the objectivity of others logic, or share your thoughts with someone that would fully comprehend.. you'd be lonely yes? Wishing for more, yes? Same with feelers.
Only thing what I am trying to do is to understand this need to be amused so often (I don't how else to name this)
I am sure that there will be some generalization in this thread but I don't not how to create it without it. Also I am sure that this is not only a F/T thing.
It's not a matter of amusement. It's a point of reference through understanding. The feeler seeks to understand, and does this through emotion. You seek to understand, but do it through thinking.
Often it happened that an F thinks that something, an object I like and make sure to stay close to that or it can be a idea also. In short, I am talking about something that people see as sacred to me.
But then problem appears and I rollover those things or throw them away or reject the idea since it is no longer.......... (correct or useful)
Language barrier. I'm not sure I understand what is being asked.. do you mean the feeler does not understand how you can abandon a value through additional info? Feelers do this all the time, some better than others. THe info it might take for you to abandon a value with probably be different than the info a feeler uses to abandon a value...
But if an F is watching this, it gets horrfied by this approach. I would dare to say that at some moments it looks like that their heart is broken just by watching ot listening to this.
I would need you to elaborate on this.. like what kind of belief are you discarding that breaks the feelers heart?
I can argue with an NF for some time and I don't get exiced over it. While NF need sometime to calm down. Also it looks like that they are quite frustrated because of mine impersonal approach.
Is it so hard to understand that I am attacking your position over something not you as a person? Or those two are same for NFs?
A feelers position can be extremely interwoven with who they are. Many feelers have put tremendous thought, experience, and emotional investment into a stance. To understand, they have had to push their feeling identification out, or open their hearts and allow others in. It is a sensitive experience, incredibly abstract and can not be limited to words, it does not follow a purely logical line. Undertones, expressions, connections, basically an energy identification, but not any more or less relevant than objective thinking. A thinker might look at another person and know they are sad. They might know this because the person is frowning, or crying, or perhaps by a few subtle comments the person has made. So they THINK sad. But do they UNDERSTAND sad? Can they feel the energy of it? Can they identify it emotionally? When you understand emotional identification in a scenario, you soon understand that objectivity is not all there is. It is not the only truth. It is one facet. When you disagree with a feeler about something they feel strongly about, it might be because you do not have all the pieces, you have not considered the info they have because you can't, or its not your strong point.