Thalassa
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There's no excuse for this mistake. Introversion and extroversion are the hardest to judge because there are gradations between them. P and J are one of the easiest. The problem here must be JCF, because it doesn't type directly for P or J. They are arrived at indirectly through determining function relationships.
So for example an Ni Dominant must be a J type, assuming the dominant is correct. And that's a big assumption to weigh the last letter on.
Here's why P and J aren't easy for some people though. I have seen for example some people stereotype ISFPs as very easy going, completely unobtrusive people...but um, Jung actually said it's the Si type who is this, a person who can even be taken advantage of because of his or her unobtrusive inner world...and then they are sometimes repelled when the Si type suddenly acts with Fe or Te to "make the too high a little lower, the too low a little higher"...it talks about the Si dom being abused. This would be ISFJs, then. Jung also said the Si type made great artists.
Most people call that ISFJ. Except in Socionics. Socionics is the theory that calls this Si dom the ISFp....except most people here aren't going by Socionics, so I'm baffled by it. Especially since in Socionics Si has so much to do with comfort and health.
I am very P. I am a big huge P, on most tests I score P the highest letter, and my life is very much evidence to this Pe perception. But because of my sometimes rigid Fi judgments some people think I seem J. And it's kind of like, NO, you see me as "J like" when I make rigid Fi or Te judgments because I'm seeming then more TJ-like, not FJ-like.
I remember Simulated World trying to explain this to somebody, that FJs look more outwardly rigid, but that FPs are actually more inwardly rigid because of Fi, despite their external flexy-ness.