Natrushka
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Again, what about just plain not caring about it?
I suspect that's part of being an INTJ/ENTJ. I understand where you're coming from - I care little what others think
Again, what about just plain not caring about it?
They are. What definition do you propose? Can you be psychologically healthy and unhappy? I don't think so.
An introvert marries an introvert.After reading this post by Toonia and posts on this thread, I am curious to know should these situations be considered examples of healthy introversion?
I've bolded the parts that I find questionable. I don't think that's healthy introversion. I would also like to add before I get tarred and feathered that I don't view introversion as a personality defect. If you need to be alone to recharge, that's fine. I don't try and force social interactions with the introverts in my life (at least to the best of my ability). Nor am I trying to quantify how much alone time introverts need.
I am not suggesting introverts make themselves into extroverts and then everything will be sunshine and rainbows. If the people listed in these situations are content with their lives as they are then they should continue as they are. But Toonia mentioned some of them experiencing anxiety just thinking about interacting with people. I wonder if people are confusing social anxiety and phobias with introversion.
I suspect that's part of being an INTJ/ENTJ. I understand where you're coming from - I care little what others thinkmostall90% ? of the time, especially as it pertains to my own thoughts / feelings.
Yes.Only if it is in a transient state. However, introversion would also be easily defined as a lack of positive emotions... least, that's one definition of it.
Would you keep me company, raincrow?
Only if it is in a transient state. However, introversion would also be easily defined as a lack of positive emotions... least, that's one definition of it.
Two objections:
1)External display of emotions does not equal internal state of person
2)Lack of both positive and negative emotions can still be classified as happiness, imho
Anyway, I was using the more biological definition of extraversion, which relates to positive emotions.
But what about unleashing anger? That seems like one of the more extraverted traits.
pt, isn't introversion tied to a biological higher arousal state?
Differences in brain function
Eysenck proposed that extraversion was caused by variability in cortical arousal; "introverts are characterized by higher levels of activity than extraverts and so are chronically more cortically aroused than extraverts". Because extraverts are less aroused internally, they require more external stimulation than introverts.
To me, this means that basically, we perceive the world as if it is set at a very high volume level and we cannot turn it down. The only way to reduce the sensory overload is to escape from the stimuli. It's easier to take when well-rested and in a good mood, but it's still draining.
Hmm. Yeah, I'd like to understand the concept better, but honestly it does feel like everything is just turned up too high.The problem is that this associates the lack of extraversion with negative emotions... In reality it's only at the most basic level that this arousal happens. It's difficult to use the chemical biological theory and explain it in behavioural terms.
A better analogy, maybe, would be that introverts have constant white noise that blankets out the sound of music. As such, we don't tend to like music. (The white noise referring to the concept of existing arousal, and the lack of desire to listen to music to the lack of positive emotional reactions - ie: the stimulus isn't strong enough to peak above the "white noise"). The draining refers to the effort required to "listen" through the white noise.
The really difficult part to get one's head around is the concept that "arousal" levels doesn't mean "stronger emotional reaction", rather that "arousal" means "diminished emotional reactions". One of these days I'll find someone who can explain exactly how this is suppose to work...
A better analogy, maybe, would be that introverts have constant white noise that blankets out the sound of music. As such, we don't tend to like music. (The white noise referring to the concept of existing arousal, and the lack of desire to listen to music to the lack of positive emotional reactions - ie: the stimulus isn't strong enough to peak above the "white noise"). The draining refers to the effort required to "listen" through the white noise.