...I know it might sound weird, but sometimes the only way to tell ENTP and ESTP apart is by how they bully. I mean we're all guilty of it from time to time, that person we just don't like and want them to know it and make life hard for them... I've observed that ESTP's will tend to bully by making mean comments, name calling and sometimes physical stuff like 'accidentally' banging into people when they walk past. But ENTP's tend to do it quite differently - I know if I want to annoy someone or pick on them and make them feel stupid, I tend to just dismiss everything they say and pick holes in it, make their ideas look stupid and not let them speak - y'know, interrupt them and dismiss everything they say, not take it on board and make them feel ignored.
How does he treat people he doesn't like? ESTP makes them feel weak, wimpish, cowardly, while ENTP is more likely to make them feel and look stupid, oafish and ornery.
He is a physical person. He's not likely to win a word battle with anyone. He prides himself on his physique. Also, this morning I remember despising him when I was a kid for his shallowness (non-N-ness). He's very competitive. He enjoys a good competition. When he was in his 20's he would hustle people out of their money by some sort of physical bet.
As far as bullying, I can't say I've seen that. One thing he does do is, if he likes you, in order to tease you, he'll walk up to you, and with a shaking fist, he'll say, "How about a punch in the nose?" (Don't know if that helps.)
One of his main qualities is that he has always been "yellow" when to comes to confronting people. They used to own a business and my father would never fire anyone. He would make my mother do the confronting.
I'm almost positive now he's an SP. And there's no doubt that he's an E. But this morning I have been questioning whether I was right about his T.
The reason I think he's a T is because he's very judgmental, closed-minded and critical. He's not diplomatic or careful with his words. He's very blunt and doesn't seem to be aware he's hurting people's feelings. But it's hard to tell for sure because he does have a "people-pleaser" side to him.
I'm really thankful to everyone for helping me out with this. :hi:
Oh gosh, you shouldn't take everything I say so seriously! I exaggerate terribly you know.
I know sweetie! ALL people have faults. It's just that I have always seen my father as about 75% faults, and 25% good - so that's what triggered the idea that I might be wrong - and it turns out I WAS wrong.
In conclusion, the unhealthiness state cannot dictate what type this person is. At a low scale, he could be a really unhealthy INJ. With the very vague description given, it could be any type. Did you not grow up with this person? If so, what is he like when not playing a role? The womanizing and drinking could be tell-tale signs of an introverted type being overwhelmed by life's circumstances.
I agree with you. It's hard to tell from just a few choice statements. Yes I did grow up with him, but he was never home. He was always at the bar - fraternizing.
this shouldnt be too hard, after all you must know him well
well there are many variables, after all a psychological type is not a complete personality.
look for these:
1
his willingness (as opposed to ability) to follow you into theory-land
and related: is he naturally dismissive or appreciative of seemingly useless academic insights?
Hmm... I'll have to think about this. He never talks about theory. It's more concrete facts.
2
is he chiefly energized by the prospect of combining insights or is he energized by direct sensory thrills (estps mainly experience the world through the senses)
Sensory thrills
3
does he revere facts about the things he love (like, whomever won the baseball championships this-and-that year) or is he naturally expansive, wanting to (again) combine the history and practices of baseball with anything and everything related (like, comparing baseball to others sports, speculating about the role of sports in society etc.)
He's an avid Red Sox fan. He talks about the stats of the players. He talks about the players' performances - critiquing them.
He studies the stats of horses so he can bet on races.
Thanks for your help.
I am pretty well convinced he is S - but I'm still not sure about the T or F.
...They also usually like to read and tinker voraciously with things. ESTPs will generally stay with "practical" pursuits, one that have some obvious advantage or gain; ENTPs are much more prone to flitting about and getting caught up in esoteric things, they will be even more all over the map in regards to their interests....
Thanks Jennifer, this helps.
...Excellent memories seem to belong to SJs. I think a lot of drinking can make any type forgetful
You're right.
Isn't this just part of U.S. born male experience of that generation?
I should have said he LIVES to fish.
One that doesn't have to do with hustling people out of their money. Something that requires WORK.
So does 90% of the male population to some extent (esp. when single)....
I wasn't sure if anyone would find it helpful information.