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LL is into voodoo, watch out boys!
Dude, wtf are you talking about?!?!?! I was just like Calvin as a kid, and NO ONE would call me EXTX.
You did though, right, at some point? Call yourself ExTx?
LL is into voodoo, watch out boys!
I'm also retarded, so that doesn't count.
INTP, then. F is absurd, and I already explained why.Calvin is totally INFP, he is so entirely absored in his world that he is utterly unaware of everything around him half the time. The only interaction he has with anybody other then Hobbes and his parents is forced and usually against his will.
Sure he is loud and insists on making sure his will is heard but I would argue all of his E moments are the result of his dirty survival mode moments.
Most of the time or not, its utterly unimportant whether he is warm or friendly towards Hobbes he is just lacking the ability to properly express his emotions.F is... stupid. He is not warm at all toward his family, and most of the time he's just friendly rather than really warm towards Hobbes.
Daydreaming and acting on what he values as important are NP traits rather than F traits, and NTPs are just as likely to do so as NFPs.
That just screams Calvin.INFPs are flexible and laid-back, until one of their values is violated. In the face of their value system being threatened, INFPs can become aggressive defenders, fighting passionately for their cause.
Bullshit:He is not, and I repeat, he is not good-hearted at all.
(Psst he's a 6 year old, single child with two parents who while love him, pretty much ignore him. Of course he is selfish and spoiled.)If he were to be an F (which he is not), he'd be an extremely selfish, spoiled and morbid Fi.
HE is still 6. I enjoyed throwing snowballs at people whe I was six, and unfortunately lacked the talent to build gruesome snowmen, but I was always envious.Good-hearted people do not get kicks from smacking the neighbor upside the head with a snowball, or depict snowmen dying a gruesome death.
I don't see how this is a point in your favor, how does being motivated by boredom mean anything? I think he is sufficiently motivated by Moe's bullying and goes to what he considers great lengths to stop it, including bringing Hobbes to school to scare him off.Furthermore, if he was F he'd be much more motivated by Moe's bullying and much less so by boredom, whereas in reality he doesn't give much of a shit about Moe.
Half the time as spaceman spiff, or stupendous man or something else. And always bringing his imaginary friend with him... if nothing this screams INFP more then anything.To cinch the deal, his interests just scream Ne Ti on crack. They include:
-Exploring the forest
His favorite made-up game being Calvinball, in which mind you there are no rules. Are you seriously arguing that Calvin as an INTP would play a game in which the only rule is that there is no system of rules?-Making up games on the fly
To my knowledge there is no strip in which Calvin admits to building gruesome snowmen for the sake of creeping out the neighbors. In fact all the signs point to the snowman as being Calvin manifesting his creativity. I think what we can see here is the typical INFP rebellious streak of a child who is absurdly misunderstood by his parents.-Building gruesome snowmen just to creep out the neighbors
Admittedly could be considered more of a Ti trait but is certainly not enough to label him officially as an INTP. Especially considering he would certainly have traits of both types.-Building super fortresses of his own design
I think that Hobbes is an ENFJ. The Fe seems dominant with him. His most nautural way to behave is to be gentle sociable and extrovert, and also driven to tell out what he values, expecting that peoples-especially Calvin- will act in a more ethic way. This is why he's prone to appears like a "givers-of-lessons" sometimes ("teacher" archetype). He's spontaneous, playfull and opened to the fine pleasures of life (tertiary Se) almost as much that he is wise and spiritully inclined (auxillary Ni). His inferior function is Ti: Hobbes don't really seems to really care about logic for itself, except in the way to serve his Fe. For examples to correct sometimes the inconsistencies in the selfish unrealism of Calvin. He has natural affinities with Susy, an ENTJ who has very much in common with him.
I still think E and T make more sense. His loneliness might be more correlated with being socially awkward rather than actually disliking people, and he created Hobbes to compensate. I is possible, but not likely.
F is... stupid. He is not warm at all toward his family, and most of the time he's just friendly rather than really warm towards Hobbes.
Daydreaming and acting on what he values as important are NP traits rather than F traits, and NTPs are just as likely to do so as NFPs.
He is not, and I repeat, he is not good-hearted at all. If he were to be an F (which he is not), he'd be an extremely selfish, spoiled and morbid Fi. Good-hearted people do not get kicks from smacking the neighbor upside the head with a snowball, or depict snowmen dying a gruesome death.
-Exploring the forest
-Making up games on the fly
-Building gruesome snowmen just to creep out the neighbors
-Building superfortresses of his own design
Which leads me to conclude he is, in fact, an ENTP.
He further is incapable of doing things that involve minute detail, like basic math (7 + 3 = 73 for instance).
Susie is creative, bright and grumpy, and doesn't seem to have friends or like people. She plays a similar role to Hobbes, but without his naughtiness. Furthermore, she is at most an ISFJ, given she is too domineering and goody-goody to be any sort of P.
IMO Calvin is an enneagram 5w4 INFP. That's probably why he comes off as an INTP to some people.
Err, no. I already demonstrated in the last thread you made that stupid argument that it contradicts the dictionary definition of the function. Shall I quote Wikipedia again? Or do you prefer a more trustworthy source?He's such an introvert it hurts. He's always in his own world, all the time. Every INFP I've known has had their own world as a kid; they've had some kind of fantasy that they've always thought about. What you don't understand is that extroversion and introversion aren't about socializing; it's about where you're primarily fixated (the external world or your own world).
T- Makes decisions based on rationality. F- Makes decisions based on emotion. This doesn't necessarily mean Ts are more stoic or Fs more emotional, but it makes it very much more likely.This has nothing to be with the T/F axis at all. A lot of F's that I know aren't warm towards their families (including me). A lot of T's that I know are. It isn't a type trait.
Daydreaming is disconnection from the physical world in favor of unrealistic, abstract imagination. N all the way. If I remember correctly it's actually a benhmark question for S/N on most Jung typology tests.And what's stopping anyone else from acting on their values? Daydreaming isn't really a type trait either.
Because I, unlike you, have actually read what the personality types are. I'll give you yet another recap:Wow you're terrible at typing. None of this has anything to do with a personality type!! How the hell can you even think this?
SourceWikipedia said:According to Carl Jung, introversion and extraversion refer to the direction of psychic energy. If a person’s psychic energy usually flows outwards then he or she is an extravert, while if the energy usually flows inwards, the person is an introvert.[9] Extraverts feel an increase of perceived energy when interacting with a large group of people, but a decrease of energy when left alone. Conversely, introverts feel an increase of energy when alone, but a decrease of energy when surrounded by a large group of people.
SourceThe Myers-Briggs Foundation said:The second pair of psychological preferences is Sensing and Intuition. Do you pay more attention to information that comes in through your five senses (Sensing), or do you pay more attention to the patterns and possibilities that you see in the information you receive (Intuition)?
SourceThe Myers-Briggs Foundation said:This third preference pair describes how you like to make decisions. Do you like to put more weight on objective principles and impersonal facts (Thinking) or do you put more weight on personal concerns and the people involved (Feeling)?
SourceThe Myers-Briggs Foundation said:This fourth preference pair describes how you like to live your outer life--what are the behaviors others tend to see? Do you prefer a more structured and decided lifestyle (Judging) or a more flexible and adaptable lifestyle (Perceiving)? This preference may also be thought of as your orientation to the outer world.
Which proves you an S. There is a marked difference between higher-level math, which is theoretical and unclear (thus N-oriented), and arithmetic, which is detailed-oriented and rooted on rote memorization. A Sensor would probably get a headache trying to handle combinatorics or advanced statistics, but an Intuitor would have a very hard time performing complex accounting tasks (Simple math with very large numbers) without fucking something up. See the difference?Okay, so all sensors are good at math? Math doesn't really have much to do with details dude... I'm terrible at math past geometry.
Harry is an ESTP. He's sociable (E), clear-headed (T), and instinctually impulsive (SP). Given the actually decent argument that came before yours I now think Calvin is an INFP, though.You seem to like to tag I_FP characters as E_TP. Like... how you think Harry Potter is an ESTP; and now Calvin an ENTP.
Appeal to popularity.I'm not sure where you learned about type, but maybe you ought to actually read about what personality type is about.Have you not caught on that your ideas may be wrong from everyone on the forum going against pretty much everything you say about type?