Ni is foresight. You know Ni is foresight, you fucking wrote about it (amazing job by the way ). What else is foresight?not necissarily Ni there
Fiona is a tough as nails, impulsive, live-in-the-moment type (so Se it hurts) and not very sociable. I could easily see her being ISFP instead of ISTP, but she's definitely some sort of ISxP.
Sam -- I could definitely buy Sam being ESTP (certainly some sort of ExTP), but I think N. He seems to have some degree of foresight, though of course not nearly as much as Ni-on-crack Michael.
If he's not INTJ, I'm Santa Claus.
No he isn't. I just laid out in detail why he isn't. Offer a counterargument, or gtfo.
Portrait of an ISTP - Introverted Sensing Thinking Perceiving
(Introverted Thinking with Extraverted Sensing)
The Mechanic
As an ISTP, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you deal with things rationally and logically. Your secondary mode is external, where you take things in via your five senses in a literal, concrete fashion.
ISTPs have a compelling drive to understand the way things work. They're good at logical analysis, and like to use it on practical concerns. They typically have strong powers of reasoning, although they're not interested in theories or concepts unless they can see a practical application. They like to take things apart and see the way they work.
ISTPs have an adventuresome spirit. They are attracted to motorcycles, airplanes, sky diving, surfing, etc. They thrive on action, and are usually fearless. ISTPs are fiercely independent, needing to have the space to make their own decisions about their next step. They do not believe in or follow rules and regulations, as this would prohibit their ability to "do their own thing". Their sense of adventure and desire for constant action makes ISTPs prone to becoming bored rather quickly.
ISTPs are loyal to their causes and beliefs, and are firm believers that people should be treated with equity and fairness. Although they do not respect the rules of the "System", they follow their own rules and guidelines for behavior faithfully. They will not take part in something which violates their personal laws. ISTPs are extremely loyal and faithful to their "brothers".
ISTPs like and need to spend time alone, because this is when they can sort things out in their minds most clearly. They absorb large quantities of impersonal facts from the external world, and sort through those facts, making judgments, when they are alone. ISTPs are action-oriented people. They like to be up and about, doing things. They are not people to sit behind a desk all day and do long-range planning. Adaptable and spontaneous, they respond to what is immediately before them. They usually have strong technical skills, and can be effective technical leaders. They focus on details and practical things. They have an excellent sense of expediency and grasp of the details which enables them to make quick, effective decisions.
None of which addresses the fact that Michael has a tremendous amount of foresight (higher Ni), excellent management and organization skills (Te), and seems unconcerned with intricacies, deduction and little nuggets of reasoning (no Ti). Any type can easily behave like another type (I act nothing like a typical ENFP, but I'm Ne Fi Te Si), and just citing type descriptions is a lazy and pedestrian way to argue type theory.
The last paragraph doesn't describe Michael at all, in any case. Out of him, Fiona and Sam, he's the one who always takes a step back and plans what comes next. He's a man of action yes, but he never goes in unprepared. Fiona (ISTP) on the other hand, always wants to immediately dive into the fray.
ISTPs like and need to spend time alone, because this is when they can sort things out in their minds most clearly. They absorb large quantities of impersonal facts from the external world, and sort through those facts, making judgments, when they are alone. ISTPs are action-oriented people. They like to be up and about, doing things. They are not people to sit behind a desk all day and do long-range planning. Adaptable and spontaneous, they respond to what is immediately before them. They usually have strong technical skills, and can be effective technical leaders. They focus on details and practical things. They have an excellent sense of expediency and grasp of the details which enables them to make quick, effective decisions.
You fail for using letter analysis. Foresight is the very definition of Ni, which Michael uses very often.(I've been watching this show tons recently so had to rekindle this thread.)
Wow I'm ridiculously ashamed that I ever thought Michael was anything but ISTP.
For all those making N arguments, when have you heard him say anything abstract? Seriously, I can't think of one thing. How could he be an N then?
Foresight does not make you an N. A PREFERENCE for abstract thinking makes you an N. He clearly has a preference for concrete thinking -- it's not even close to close to arguable.
You fail for using letter analysis. Foresight is the very definition of Ni, which Michael uses very often.
I'm thinking ISTP for him might be right, though, which doesn't conflict with what I just said. ISTPs use Ni aplenty.
A preference for foresight is a preference for Ni. It is indeed abstract, but as I demonstrated in my last post (as edited) it may not seem so. Captain Aubrey (Master and Commander, ENTJ) doesn't seem abstract at all, for example, but he clearly has a preference for prediction (Ni) over reliance on experience (Si). The last scene of the movie is proof -- his pep talk to his men consisted of quite accurately predicting what the Acheron would do when it saw them.This is where typology fails. When people use it to describe ability and forget that it's a descriptive system purely about PREFERENCE.
I think in terms of all four functions, not just the first two. Michael is clearly farsighted and clearly has a good eye for detail and a knack for improvisation -- which means he is an Ni/Se type. The big question is whether he prefers Te or Ti. If Ti, then he's ISTP. If Te, then he's INTJ.I'm not only thinking letter by letter. I'm thinking functional analysis as well. Ti/Se seems descriptively consistent with his behavior. Seems like a better descriptor to me than Ni/Te.
You fail for using letter analysis. Foresight is the very definition of Ni, which Michael uses very often.
I'm thinking ISTP for him might be right, though, which doesn't conflict with what I just said. ISTPs use Ni aplenty.