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We make a good team - endless creativity does need a good editor at some point
Hehe. Yeah, that's definitely true sometimes.
We make a good team - endless creativity does need a good editor at some point
All the ENFPs I've known have been great. I think you've got more to be concerned with with dominant thinkers than with all thinkers. I've noticed ENTJs tend not to get along as well with ENFPs, and INTPs are iffy too. I think what's more important than type though is that people are willing to work with each other and attempt to understand them on their level. This is definitely something a lot of T types struggle with unless they work at it.
I wish I could appear in a sparkly cloud of awesome, but it's more likely that I announce my presence by accidentally catching my hipbone on the doorway upon entering.
What's the quandary?
I wish I could appear in a sparkly cloud of awesome, but it's more likely that I announce my presence by accidentally catching my hipbone on the doorway upon entering.
What's the quandary?
I recommended he try himself an e7 ENFP, based on him being INTJ e4. He decided to summon you
It has something to do with you being ENFP e7
I recommended he try himself an e7 ENFP, based on him being INTJ e4. He decided to summon you
Hahhaah!
You're trying to turn him into a hideous chimera, aren't you my ingenious darling? <3
Hahhaah!
You're trying to turn him into a hideous chimera, aren't you my ingenious darling? <3
Yes you did, however it was called step 2... my bad
I just...answer questions. What people do with the answers is totally up to them
Also, [MENTION=20044]chubber[/MENTION]...Never ever ask the ENFP what the plan is. Know the plan and follow up on it. It just aint...our strength.
Honest to god, I have no clue what the *** you re talking about with phase 2.
...did I talk about a phase 2 somewhere?
But that's the point: I cannot assume everyone wants to be treated as I would prefer, or values the same things I value. I need to ask instead how the other person wants to be treated, and that is often very difficult to discern.
I know, but that is step 2 in the process and i did not want to overwelm him! First we get the intj to see the reason to put effort in caring; then we teach em how to tailor it to others. Patience, woman!
oh my
Yes you did, however it was called step 2... my bad
Dude, that was a different thread and addressed to someone else, and you expect me to just *know*? Do you have any idea how much crap I babble on about?
If you're sure you're ready for step 2 - aka intermediate Fi - here it is:
After you've determined how you'd want to be treated, you take that as a baseline and then adjust the following variables:
- Substitute their background - aka what you know about them - for your own.
- Substitute their personality - see above - for your own and calculatehow this is logically going to impact the results.
- Check your own emotional state as it will pollute the outcome of this exercise with bias if you do not factor it in or put yourself in neutral first
- Take into account what kind of bond you share with said individual and how that would impact what they'd be comfortable hearing from you, sharing with you and are likely to hide from you due to privacy concerns - and respect those boundaries!
/intermediate Fi approach with people.
I know, but that is step 2 in the process and i did not want to overwelm him! First we get the intj to see the reason to put effort in caring; then we teach em how to tailor it to others. Patience, woman!
Too much?
See the thing is, how do you expect me to know what you don't know, when you were the one that talked about it in the first place.
uhm, that him, was referencing me, unless my over active Ni is imagining too much.
Don't know what that last step is all about. But I guess it would be best to take this to another thread. I'm not even sure that is possible for me, or if I even want to do it.
Grin, well that's the step that leads from intermediate Fi to advanced Fi
It basically requires you to be able to read where you stand with the other person - acquaintance, friend, best friend, colleague - and how good your bond is. At that point you incorporate their own personal traits - private, serious, warm, doesn't mind being vulnerable, etc - to gauge how much you can say and how you can approach them best in expressing your empathy/sympathy towards them.
In essence, the entire process goes from empathy ( aka, how do I feel or step 1 - at least for Fi users), to learning sympathy (aka, realising how this must affect the other person considering who they are and the situation they are in) to merging the two and perfecting the feedback style tailored to that person for optimum connection/communication.
That sounds awful lot like Fe.
I wish I could appear in a sparkly cloud of awesome, but it's more likely that I announce my presence by accidentally catching my hipbone on the doorway upon entering.
What's the quandary?
In a role playing game many years ago, an enemy telepath tried to read my mind to figure out what my plan was. He learned that I didn't have any idea what my plan was, I was so totally winging it at the time! It didn't help that I was a "wild mage" in that game, and my spells often tended to go a bit wrong, and I simply used my Ni to take advantage of whatever "wrong" happened to appear.Never ever ask the ENFP what the plan is. Know the plan and follow up on it. It just aint...our strength.
Grin, well that's the step that leads from intermediate Fi to advanced Fi
It basically requires you to be able to read where you stand with the other person - acquaintance, friend, best friend, colleague - and how good your bond is. At that point you incorporate their own personal traits - private, serious, warm, doesn't mind being vulnerable, etc - to gauge how much you can say and how you can approach them best in expressing your empathy/sympathy towards them.
In essence, the entire process goes from empathy ( aka, how do I feel or step 1 - at least for Fi users), to learning sympathy (aka, realising how this must affect the other person considering who they are and the situation they are in) to merging the two and perfecting the feedback style tailored to that person for optimum connection/communication.