Azure Flame
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- 8w7
I would never buck the system just to buck the system. I walked away from God when I was 18 because I was just so full of pain and bitterness at the world and bought into temporary fulfillment in other things. I think it was also a little because I felt abandoned, I didn't realize God was just growing me (painful as it was). I returned to my faith at 20 because of the unsatisfying train wreck that those two years of cheap and temporary thrills were. I didn't leave my faith as a rebellion against authority (that sounds way more e6 to me), I left because I was genuinely disillusioned and needed to experience that the alternative was like "chasing the wind" as Soloman puts it.
Whatever 4's you are encountering (if they are 4's, still sounds 6-ish to me) no amount of push will change their perspective. We need to crash, burn and see the truth ourselves-- that's where the redemption theme of 4 comes in. IMHO anyway.
yeah!
hey I never actually knew E4's were about redemption. Is there an article I can read about that?
I've always felt 4's needed to "experience hell" first hand. As an ESTP, I feel the same need, but psychological darkness is not a place I'm willing to go. I do kinda feel like everyone in the world needs to experience life on the edge of madness before they can return to a life of holy values.