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Cold war 2.0

Virtual ghost

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Overall the organisation yesterday was smooth and swift, but there were some issues with mail ballots from abroad not getting to the embassies on time. Apparently Wagenknecht considers challenging the election because mathematically those people could have voted BSW in which case they might have saved her party. She was 13.456 votes short of the 5% hurdle. The matter is under investigation.

When I wrote that post I was about 99% sure that something like this will happen. They came too close to be silent now.
 

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The things is that Trump is breaking away from what US policy was for decades/generations. Which is keeping Europe satisfied and thus standing in line. Therefore if you break away from that you are basically creating a major new competitor. Since Europe is pretty developed in global context and EU with all of it's close neighbors has over 200% of US population. Therefore if Europe starts to wake up for real after decades of sleeping US will almost surely find itself in the situation that it's global influence will be evaporating. Especially since most of the world doesn't have too positive opinion about it to begin with. Therefore if Europe wakes up US simply wouldn't be able to keep up with everything that is going on globally. What means losing ground politically and economically. However Trump is going directly for that scenario.


We are potentially looking at some quite "interesting" times ahead.
 

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I am currently watching an interview with British historian Timothy Garton Ash. As he succinctly puts it: Europe is simultaneously under attack from three directions: from the East by Russia, from the West by America and from the bottom by nationalist populism.

Since we have limited influence on Russia and Trump, I would think that this means one of the best investments and moves for more security would be to quench the forst fire within. Now, if this was easy it would have been done a long time ago, but I think calming the existential fears and unrest at the bottom of society would go a long way and also make it easier to form a united European front against agression from the other two sides.
 

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Regarding the above.

Trump says he will slap European goods with 25% tariff


I mean ok, but doing trade war on multiple fronts is almost surely pretty bad idea.
However this would basically be the end of Tran Atlantic relationship as we know it. As I said, as long as NATO exists there is a chance that we can turn back the clock and go back how the world was some 30 years ago in political sense (more or less). However if the Alliance is off the table then this is one completely new era.
 

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Since we have limited influence on Russia and Trump, I would think that this means one of the best investments and moves for more security would be to quench the forst fire within. Now, if this was easy it would have been done a long time ago, but I think calming the existential fears and unrest at the bottom of society would go a long way and also make it easier to form a united European front against agression from the other two sides.


Austria: Centrist parties form coalition without far-right

And this will be another brick in that wall.
 

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We will step up our support to Ukraine so that they can continue to fight back the [aggressor]. Today, it became clear that the free world needs a new leader. It’s up to us, Europeans, to take this challenge - Kaja Kallas
 
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